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New Video Emerges — Up close view of New Mexico Conquistador shooting…
Citizen Free Press ^ | 6/17/2020 | Kane

Posted on 06/17/2020 11:13:24 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: snarkytart

Wow... Which video are you watching? She wasn’t preventing him from leaving. The road was behind him. She was preventing him from getting closer to the monument. No one was approaching, or approached him until he threw her down. My take... He showed up there with bad intent, hence the pepper spray already in his hand and wanted to get closer to the monument so he could use it on those at the top. Dude was looking for trouble and he found it. The other guys from the NMCG did things right. They acted professionally and we’re calm. The only exception would be the guy running around with the blue mask on. I don’t know what the heck he was doing.


41 posted on 06/17/2020 1:25:13 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: snarkytart

Yep, the skateboard seemed to be an afterthought. You can see him charge in, bend over and pick up the board a second or two before he whacked our hero with it. That’s when he, I think, lost control of the board and dropped it, revealing, OMG, he has knives in his hands!


42 posted on 06/17/2020 1:27:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Yes, And supposedly there was an undercover detective there who has witnessed everything and they were taunting Baca and threatening him, that’s why he initially started to back away/retreat, only to have that scank try to stop him from moving away from a threatening situation.


43 posted on 06/17/2020 1:30:16 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

He WAS shot in the back. Geez... did you even watch any of the videos? They rolled him on his back and lifted his shirt... not a scratch. Rolled him over to do a blood sweep and found two GSWs. Look a the videos... blood all over his back and nothing on his chest or abdomen.


44 posted on 06/17/2020 1:42:50 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: Mathews

I have watched multiple videos...from the angle I saw it looked like he was leaving along with the others that were armed there. She was definitely in his path of departure. Then adjusted as he tried to go around her after he said something to her. Unfortunately, the videos are being taken down as fast as they are put up. So I can’t find the long version right now. They are being edited down to 10-20 seconds of him throwing her so you can’t see the orientation or what happened before. Just like the idiots who think removing a statue will erase history...they think they can rewrite what happened here.
And here you go assuming and stating what he planned to do? It is as bad as what all these idiots there were doing... What video are you watching...you picked up on the fact he was carrying spray and then decided to just make up a story for what he was doing? You know what he intended? You know he planned to use it on those at the top? You know he had bad intent?
hmmm...you need rethink what you think you know and stop posting made up stories


45 posted on 06/17/2020 1:48:34 PM PDT by EtchASketch
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To: Mathews
Screaming "going to kill you"...grabs a skateboard and attempts murder...

Joins in on a fight with a guy down...Smashes the guy with skateboard....

Realizes...oops my knife and my skateboard just tried to kill the wrong guy...brought the wrong deadly weapon

and that ended that attempted murder.
46 posted on 06/17/2020 1:55:09 PM PDT by EtchASketch
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To: LibWhacker; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...
Another article, another (or same) video, another set of comments and another ping to the list.

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47 posted on 06/17/2020 2:09:39 PM PDT by CedarDave (Wash your hands like you just peeled a sack of green chile and need to take out your contact lenses.)
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To: EtchASketch
My opinion (still allowed to have one, right), is that is not a knife in his left hand. Its the ear piece of the glasses he was carrying, which can be clearly seen earlier, in the longer video. The right hand though... I haven't seen anything anywhere where an official involved with the investigation mentions anything about a knife(s). If you have one, please link it.

Baca might still get of on self-defense based off the bums rush, the skateboard, the strikes to the head by the girl and the other attacker and the threats even though he started the entire thing... my opinion.

A good prosecutor will definitely exploit the fact the attacker was shot in the back.

48 posted on 06/17/2020 2:20:29 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: Mathews
He puts his hands on her at the 00:06 mark (assault)

First of all, this is New Mexico, so there's assault which doesn't require actual contact and there's battery which is actual contact intended to cause harm. Baca was surrounded and was trying to go somewhere else. Judging from the direction Baca went afterwards he was trying to leave the mob. She moves to block Baca and makes contact, he moves right to go around, she moved right to block him and made contact to block him. She puts her right elbow into the right side of his shoulder or neck. That's all before 00:06. The person holding the camera is moving towards Baca at the start of the video, people were shouting at him, so events were already in motion. The redshirted guy who tries to take Baca down after the woman is taken down, he was moving up behind Baca and around to the right to block him, that's his hand waving at the start of the video.

It's a common misconception that blocking someone isn't a crime and isn't offensive. Blocking someone who's trying to avoid being surrounded by a mob of hostile people and get to safety, that there is assault in New Mexico.

49 posted on 06/17/2020 2:30:24 PM PDT by no-s
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To: 7thOF7th

I can’t see how any sane jury would see otherwise. The guy made a clear and distinct verbal threat and had a knife.


50 posted on 06/17/2020 2:41:32 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: moovova

Plus the fact that he made a clear,audible verbal threat.


51 posted on 06/17/2020 2:43:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: LibWhacker

I just want to know who made his holster.


52 posted on 06/17/2020 3:13:40 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: no-s

Thanks for the insight. I haven’t seen anything prior to the :06 mark of the SLO-MO video. I think most folks are seeing the video which starts after the camera operator moved to the right, just as Baca says something to her. I didn’t notice red-shirt. I’ll have to go back and look specifically for him. Thanks!


53 posted on 06/17/2020 3:50:44 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: aquila48
Charges reduced. It's obvious it was self-defense. No case.

Click here.

54 posted on 06/17/2020 6:11:02 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Mathews

No offense, but you are a moron.


55 posted on 06/17/2020 7:22:35 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Why do you believe I’m a moron? Specifics please. Refusal to answer makes you a coward.


56 posted on 06/17/2020 7:33:50 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It appears you have a propensity for name calling. Moron, idiot... things of that nature, but you don’t offer anything substantial at alll. Three to five words per sentence and you’re out. Is that because you’re afraid of dialogue? Perspectives? Low intelligence and an inability to communicate above and beyond a few grunts and growls? Just wondering.


57 posted on 06/17/2020 7:41:39 PM PDT by Mathews (ItÂ’s all gravy, baby!)
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To: freeandfreezing
I'd like to see the knife in video footage, and not just in a still where it could have been photoshopped.

I am not sure it is a knife. Looks like it might be a garrotte with two handles.

There is something in each hand, and it looks as though there is could be a thin wire or cable between them.

58 posted on 06/17/2020 8:06:13 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

what’s in the left hand looks pointed like a knife blade to me- but heck, even if it is a garrote he was still screaming he was gonna kill the man and had a deadly weapon in his hands to do so


59 posted on 06/17/2020 8:55:46 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

A screen grab from early on in his pursuit of the shooter, it shows that he did have glasses in his hand at that point.
The DA also said they found multiple weapons including knives at the scene...so we may never know definitively what it was given the resolution/clarity of the video.


60 posted on 06/18/2020 8:53:22 AM PDT by EtchASketch
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