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‘Designating’ Antifa a Terrorist Organization Is a Bad Idea
National Review ^ | 8/31/2017 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 05/31/2020 12:48:14 PM PDT by EBH

I know this sounds crazy, but Donald Trump will not be president forever. In fact, he hasn’t been president that long . . . meaning, it was not so long ago that we were dealing with an Obama administration — and its media-Democrat pom-pom squads — that regarded limited-government conservatives, Second Amendment proponents, and many veterans returning from overseas military service as “right-wing extremists” who posed a threat of “domestic terrorism.” Someday, maybe sooner than we’d like to think, Democrats are going to be in power again. Do we really want to give them enhanced federal powers to harass ideological opponents under the guise of “designating” domestic terrorist threats?

Right this minute, in terms of confronting Antifa or any other domestic terrorist organization, we have a more robust array of state and federal law-enforcement powers than we have ever had. Moreover, coordination between federal and state law-enforcement and national-security officers is as good as it has ever been. All that is required to gut Antifa is the will to do it — the will to say, “Regardless of our disparate political views, we Americans draw the line at violent extortion that eviscerates our right to speak, assemble, and engage in constitutionally protected political activity.”

I’d humbly suggest we work on that, rather than wasting our energy on meaningless and potentially counterproductive theater like designating domestic terrorist organizations.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; domesticterrorism; terrorists
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To: EBH
Putting Antifa on a TWL makes much more sense than putting this octogenerian on one -- just for disagreeing with the FBI's MALtreatment of the Murrah Building evidence...

TXnMA    
  

81 posted on 05/31/2020 1:56:04 PM PDT by TXnMA (Anagram: "PANDEMIC --> DEM PANIC")
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To: null and void

“When is voicing the truth a bad idea?”

You’ve never been married, have you.


82 posted on 05/31/2020 1:56:58 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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To: EBH

The groups origins date back to the 1920s. I have been looking for an original manifesto but can only find what appears to be an “updated 2017” version. Anybody have a link to an older version?


83 posted on 05/31/2020 1:57:46 PM PDT by LibertyF0RAll
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To: EBH

ANTIFA is organized crime. They are funded by criminals and act to violate the law.

Let them be labeled a domestic terrorist organization and let’s see if they like being targeted by defensive measures.


84 posted on 05/31/2020 1:58:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: EBH

I don’t know if it’s a good idea or a bad idea, but it’s kind of pointless. AntiFa isn’t like the NRA or the NAACP. It’s not like people join it and get membership cards that get them discounts at Holiday Inn hotels.


85 posted on 05/31/2020 1:58:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: LibertyF0RAll

Weren’t they the communist counter-party to the National-socialist party in Europe (obviously mostly in Germany).

Being Anti Facist is OK, I guess. But these guys are hard core anarchists. Their “name” is not accurate.


86 posted on 05/31/2020 2:04:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: be-baw; ASA Vet
Anyone know how designating Antifa a terrorist group makes any difference? What would that allow the feds to do that they couldn’t before?

Association to ANTIFA once suspected or proven, automatically gives probable cause to investigate and crack open their life. That is uniform across the entire LEO spectrum, local/state/federal.

From a DoD perspective to collect and retain information on a US person, there has to be an exemption. Terrorism is one of the exemptions. When the National Guard is federalized, they go by DoD authorities, not their states.

I used to work counter IED network issues for Uncle Sugar and Intelligence Oversight is a big deal in that area.

87 posted on 05/31/2020 2:05:10 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: be-baw; ASA Vet
Anyone know how designating Antifa a terrorist group makes any difference? What would that allow the feds to do that they couldn’t before?

Association to ANTIFA once suspected or proven, automatically gives probable cause to investigate and crack open their life. That is uniform across the entire LEO spectrum, local/state/federal.

From a DoD perspective to collect and retain information on a US person, there has to be an exemption. Terrorism is one of the exemptions. When the National Guard is federalized, they go by DoD authorities, not their states.

I used to work counter IED network issues for Uncle Sugar and Intelligence Oversight is a big deal in that area.

88 posted on 05/31/2020 2:05:14 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: EBH

The argument McCarthy makes is like the ones made against the Patriot Act, but I don’t recall McCarthy opposing it. Did he?

If he didn’t, is he now just afraid to offend his DemocRar friends?


89 posted on 05/31/2020 2:05:53 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Just once.

It ended badly...

...what’s your point?


90 posted on 05/31/2020 2:06:52 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

Just a joke, relax!


91 posted on 05/31/2020 2:13:20 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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To: Professional

Yes!


92 posted on 05/31/2020 2:17:39 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SaxxonWoods

My reply was intended as the punchline...


93 posted on 05/31/2020 2:18:54 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: EBH

These powers are codified in US law.
Whether Trump uses them or not will have no effect on whether a future Dim president uses them.


94 posted on 05/31/2020 2:19:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CodeToad

And have a warrant for George Soros arrest.


95 posted on 05/31/2020 2:22:40 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvavida

Thanks! That was quite informative and helpful.


96 posted on 05/31/2020 2:34:13 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: EBH

THIS is exactly the kind of weak kneed surrender monkey BS that so disgusted many of us with the Republican Party Establishment for so many years.

Klantifa IS a terrorist organization. Its really that simple. Playing nice with the Left will get you nothing. I’m not on board with “managed decline” or with slowing down slightly while still traveling ever leftward.

We elected Trump because he’s not like you RINOs. He actually fights back.


97 posted on 05/31/2020 2:49:24 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: EBH
Never Trumper Andy at the Trump hater NR .
please do the exact opposite of this treasonous snakes advice .
This snake is trouble .
98 posted on 05/31/2020 2:52:15 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists)
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To: EBH

Fill up gitmo


99 posted on 05/31/2020 3:01:42 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Vermont Lt

Kinda like the Democrats name is no longer accurate...


100 posted on 05/31/2020 3:09:04 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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