Posted on 12/05/2019 10:01:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
Since Hong Kong’s anti-government demonstrations began in June, the pro-democracy movement has been pleading for international support. And the recent confirmation of China’s systematic internment of Muslim Uighurs in the country’s western Xinjiang province has strengthened international calls for action against China’s human rights abuses.
Now, human rights advocates and some German politicians are calling for German Chancellor Angela Merkel to take a stronger stance on human rights issues in China. […]
However, during six months of unrest in Hong Kong, and the ongoing reports of minority oppression in Xinjiang, Chancellor Merkel has been careful not to explicitly support the pro-democracy movement, or condemn the internment camps. […]
After Merkel’s China trip in September, the chief of German industrial giant Siemens, Joe Kaeser, warned Germany against taking too critical a stance, and advocated being “thoughtful and respectful” toward China.
“If jobs in Germany depend on how we deal with controversial topics, then we shouldn’t add to indignation, but rather carefully consider all positions and actions,” said Kaeser in an interview with German newspaper Die Welt. …
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“money, that’s what I want...”
They want us to treat them like they’re survivors of WW2. That was 70 years ago.
Maybe China will, they hope. But China’s no fool.
Why? Money, money, money.
and advocated being “thoughtful and respectful” toward China...
Well that was mighty white of him :)
They should be thoughtful of and respectful TO the Chinese citizens.
the govt, not so much.
As for the muzzies really taking a beating there...I haven’t read about any muzzie countries talking about going to war with China to free them.
Is this a different kind of muzzie? Are there not just shia and sunni?
Forgive my ignorance.
As you all have for a decade or so :)
It’s mostly about money, but they also have a SORRY history of their own.
Boy you can say that again.
I don’t know the country but those in their teens and 20s during WWII had to pass their views to the next few generations.
How did they look back on the war? Did they realize what they did was horrific, did they say that most Germans weren’t at fault and did some even pass down antisemitic sentiments.
Again, I don’t know the country so I don’t know the answer.
That’s a real brain teaser, lol.
Islamic cult members? Renounce or else. What is so difficult about this? Besides, it is an internal matter for China to address. None of our business how they deal with terrorists in the midst.
The Uighurs are a Turkic ethnic group; they are not a division of Islam. I think 100 percent of them may be Mahometan, but not sure.
As far as Islam goes in Red China, the Hui (Han Chinese Mahometans) do not get the same treatment as the Uighurs, who express separatist sentiments.
This reminds me of how West Germany, although not part of the USSR like East Germany, often displayed sympathy with and towards the USSR at various times.
They make it their business what we do in our country, so that ship has sailed already.
Uighurs are an ethnic group, not exclusively Mahometan but vast majority. The Hui are Han Chinese and also Mahometan, but they are left alone.
I’m hard pressed when it comes to having any sympathy for muslims, no need to start any bad habits.
So Mohametan (I had to look it up) doesn’t make one a muslim, I assume?
I looked up Turkic too :)
I don’t know enough to grasp the West Germany/USSR comparison.
Which group in China is West Germany and which would be the USSR?
Thanks in advance.
All new and very interesting stuff to me
Well, let’s put it this way: the US gave up de-Nazification of the country two years after the war and handed it over to Adenauer, who declared it “over” just four years after that. Think that it was completed?
I use “Mahometan” (or “Mohammedan”; I prefer the alternate and perhaps archaic spelling of Mahomet) because Muslims are not fond of that term for themselves.
I’m comparing Germany’s stance towards Red China with West Germany’s stance towards the USSR back during the Cold War.
Well I had to look up him too and though he seemed quite against the whole nazi thing, wikipedia said he quickly turned AWAY from de-Nazification and towards rebuilding Germany.
Sounds like a little TOO quickly!
You’ve caused me to do quite a bit of reading this evening.
Thanks :) Always great to learn new things.
Gotcha.
Last question of the evening :)
Why did W Germany, even if infrequently (i don’t know how often it did) look favorably upon the USSR?
Thanks again.
[Uighurs are an ethnic group, not exclusively Mahometan but vast majority. The Hui are Han Chinese and also Mahometan, but they are left alone.]
Because Germany knows China will kick their butt if they don't behave.
I kind of got the same idea when I lived in Germany. I was amazed at how much support the Soviet Union got from Germans.
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