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Why is Germany silent on China's human rights abuses?
Deutsche Welle ^
| 12.05.2019
| Wesley Rahn
Posted on 12/05/2019 10:01:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:01:14 PM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
“money, that’s what I want...”
They want us to treat them like they’re survivors of WW2. That was 70 years ago.
Maybe China will, they hope. But China’s no fool.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:05:32 PM PST
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
To: Olog-hai
Why? Money, money, money.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:06:08 PM PST
by
Lurkina.n.Learnin
(If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
To: Olog-hai
and advocated being thoughtful and respectful toward China...
Well that was mighty white of him :)
They should be thoughtful of and respectful TO the Chinese citizens.
the govt, not so much.
As for the muzzies really taking a beating there...I haven’t read about any muzzie countries talking about going to war with China to free them.
Is this a different kind of muzzie? Are there not just shia and sunni?
Forgive my ignorance.
As you all have for a decade or so :)
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:13:37 PM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: dp0622
Its mostly about money, but they also have a SORRY history of their own.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:15:51 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Father of Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go much faster than Army tanks)
To: Mark17
Boy you can say that again.
I don’t know the country but those in their teens and 20s during WWII had to pass their views to the next few generations.
How did they look back on the war? Did they realize what they did was horrific, did they say that most Germans weren’t at fault and did some even pass down antisemitic sentiments.
Again, I don’t know the country so I don’t know the answer.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:23:40 PM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: Olog-hai
That’s a real brain teaser, lol.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:24:28 PM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Deutschmark, Deutschmark über alles...
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:25:22 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
To: Olog-hai
Islamic cult members? Renounce or else. What is so difficult about this? Besides, it is an internal matter for China to address. None of our business how they deal with terrorists in the midst.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:28:44 PM PST
by
Reno89519
(No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
To: dp0622
The Uighurs are a Turkic ethnic group; they are not a division of Islam. I think 100 percent of them may be Mahometan, but not sure.
As far as Islam goes in Red China, the Hui (Han Chinese Mahometans) do not get the same treatment as the Uighurs, who express separatist sentiments.
This reminds me of how West Germany, although not part of the USSR like East Germany, often displayed sympathy with and towards the USSR at various times.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:29:10 PM PST
by
Olog-hai
("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
To: Reno89519
They make it their business what we do in our country, so that ship has sailed already.
Uighurs are an ethnic group, not exclusively Mahometan but vast majority. The Hui are Han Chinese and also Mahometan, but they are left alone.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:31:43 PM PST
by
Olog-hai
("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
To: Reno89519
I’m hard pressed when it comes to having any sympathy for muslims, no need to start any bad habits.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:34:10 PM PST
by
heshtesh
To: Olog-hai
So Mohametan (I had to look it up) doesn’t make one a muslim, I assume?
I looked up Turkic too :)
I don’t know enough to grasp the West Germany/USSR comparison.
Which group in China is West Germany and which would be the USSR?
Thanks in advance.
All new and very interesting stuff to me
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:35:13 PM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: dp0622
Well, let’s put it this way: the US gave up de-Nazification of the country two years after the war and handed it over to Adenauer, who declared it “over” just four years after that. Think that it was completed?
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:36:15 PM PST
by
Olog-hai
("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
To: dp0622
I use “Mahometan” (or “Mohammedan”; I prefer the alternate and perhaps archaic spelling of Mahomet) because Muslims are not fond of that term for themselves.
I’m comparing Germany’s stance towards Red China with West Germany’s stance towards the USSR back during the Cold War.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:38:08 PM PST
by
Olog-hai
("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
To: Olog-hai
Well I had to look up him too and though he seemed quite against the whole nazi thing, wikipedia said he quickly turned AWAY from de-Nazification and towards rebuilding Germany.
Sounds like a little TOO quickly!
You’ve caused me to do quite a bit of reading this evening.
Thanks :) Always great to learn new things.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:43:12 PM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: Olog-hai
Gotcha.
Last question of the evening :)
Why did W Germany, even if infrequently (i don’t know how often it did) look favorably upon the USSR?
Thanks again.
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:45:57 PM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: Olog-hai
[Uighurs are an ethnic group, not exclusively Mahometan but vast majority. The Hui are Han Chinese and also Mahometan, but they are left alone.]
What’s new under the current emperor is that all practicing Muslims are getting the third degree, not just the Uighurs. Christians, too, with religious icons getting replaced by photos of Xi and Mao. This is the kind of thing that led Jews to mount a bloody revolt against the Romans that resulted in the destruction of the Second Temple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps
[As of 2018, it was estimated that the Chinese authorities may have detained hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million, of Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Hui (Muslims) and other ethnic Turkic Muslims, Christians as well as some foreign citizens such as Kazakhstanis, who are kept in these secretive internment camps throughout the region.]
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posted on
12/05/2019 10:53:34 PM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Olog-hai
Why is Germany silent on China's human rights abuses? Because Germany knows China will kick their butt if they don't behave.
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posted on
12/05/2019 11:21:16 PM PST
by
Cowboy Bob
("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
To: Olog-hai
This reminds me of how West Germany, although not part of the USSR like East Germany, often displayed sympathy with and towards the USSR at various times.I kind of got the same idea when I lived in Germany. I was amazed at how much support the Soviet Union got from Germans.
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posted on
12/06/2019 12:00:15 AM PST
by
Mark17
(Father of Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go much faster than Army tanks)
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