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Why is Germany silent on China's human rights abuses?
Deutsche Welle ^ | 12.05.2019 | Wesley Rahn

Posted on 12/05/2019 10:01:14 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: dp0622
Why did W Germany, even if infrequently (i don’t know how often it did) look favorably upon the USSR?

I noticed it when I lived in Germany (1980 to 1984) It always puzzled me, but I can offer up some possible explanations. Maybe some are ignorant. Others may be willfully ignorant. Others may be gullible, and believe communist propaganda. Others may be just outright communists.

21 posted on 12/06/2019 12:14:26 AM PST by Mark17 (Father of Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go much faster than Army tanks)
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To: Olog-hai

Western governments (including our own) stopped criticizing Red China decades ago; they see them now as a blueprint, not a threat. We’ve been complicit in their subjugation of the population since Nixon visited. They are a fake enemy; we built their economy, as well as the software to control their people; we educate their cadres in our universities, and let them steal our knowledge/designs/plans.


22 posted on 12/06/2019 3:31:17 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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For the same reason Germany helped create INSTEX.


23 posted on 12/06/2019 3:32:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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And speaking of Germany and INSTEX, get a load of this....

Six European countries join EU-Iran financial trading mechanism INSTEX

Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden.

24 posted on 12/06/2019 3:49:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Got any links showing the Hui getting it as badly as Christians do, at least?


25 posted on 12/06/2019 7:40:24 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Looks like the old Axis trying to get the band back together.


26 posted on 12/06/2019 7:42:21 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Because Germans are cynical posturing hypocrites who will do anything for money?

These are the people who gleefully do business with the Iranian Mullah’s and who did business with the Castro brothers and who took Saddam’s blood money after all.


27 posted on 12/06/2019 12:58:58 PM PST by FLT-bird
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Because Germans are cynical posturing hypocrites who will do anything for money?

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I think the word you’re looking for there is whores. The German gov is all about whoring.


28 posted on 12/06/2019 1:00:51 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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[Got any links showing the Hui getting it as badly as Christians do, at least?]


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/11/if-you-enter-a-camp-you-never-come-out-inside-chinas-war-on-islam
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/world/asia/china-xinjiang.html

Xi Jinping is a stone killer. If he could get away with slaughtering every Muslim and Christian in the country, he would. Muslims are being put in camps instead of being killed because a mass liquidation would be the one way he could have Chinese goods banned from every Muslim country in the world. And mere concentration camps for Christians would trigger a trade embargo in the West.


29 posted on 12/06/2019 3:24:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Not the most credible sources, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt here.


30 posted on 12/06/2019 3:36:20 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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[Not the most credible sources, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt here.]


What do you consider credible sources on China?


31 posted on 12/06/2019 3:56:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I’m speaking in general here; the Manchester Grauniad and Slimes are more often than not sympathetic with the CPC, but sometimes they have reporters who put truth over ideology and manage to get published.


32 posted on 12/06/2019 4:37:29 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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[I’m speaking in general here; the Manchester Grauniad and Slimes are more often than not sympathetic with the CPC, but sometimes they have reporters who put truth over ideology and manage to get published.]


That was not a rhetorical question. As far as I can tell, the Guardian and the Times are some of the biggest names on the China beat. They have reporters on the ground in China that are skeptical of the regime and routinely report on incidents few other outlets cover. The Guardian is probably the least restrained of the major media outlets in its China coverage because it has no Chinese financial interests. The New York Times is 17% owned by Carlos Slim, the Mexican telecom tycoon, who may have Chinese interests affected by its coverage. The Wall Street Journal is controlled by the Murdochs, who have spent decades trying to breach the Chinese firewall surrounding foreign media penetration.


33 posted on 12/06/2019 5:03:48 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I wasn’t talking rhetorically. The Grauniad and Slimes work overtime trying to turn the First World into the Second World (IOW like Red China), so their sincerity and accuracy are suspect at the very least without independent verification.


34 posted on 12/06/2019 7:43:16 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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