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Revealed: FBI investigated civil rights group as 'terrorism' threat and viewed KKK as victims
Guardian ^ | Fri 1 Feb 2019 | Sam Levin

Posted on 02/01/2019 7:44:28 AM PST by yesthatjallen

The FBI opened a “domestic terrorism” investigation into a civil rights group in California, labeling the activists “extremists” after they protested against neo-Nazis in 2016, new documents reveal.

Federal authorities ran a surveillance operation on By Any Means Necessary (Bamn), spying on the leftist group’s movements in an inquiry that came after one of Bamn’s members was stabbed at the white supremacist rally, according to documents obtained by the Guardian. The FBI’s Bamn files reveal:

The FBI investigated Bamn for potential “conspiracy” against the “rights” of the “Ku Klux Klan” and white supremacists.

The FBI considered the KKK as victims and the leftist protesters as potential terror threats, and downplayed the threats of the Klan, writing: “The KKK consisted of members that some perceived to be supportive of a white supremacist agenda.”

The FBI’s monitoring included in-person surveillance, and the agency cited Bamn’s advocacy against “rape and sexual assault” and “police brutality” as evidence in the terrorism inquiry.

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KEYWORDS: bamn; byanymeansnecessary; fbi; kkk
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The FBI finally got around to investigating the violent, extreme liberal group By Any Means Necessary and now they're being called out for defending the "KKK" and "white supremacists".
1 posted on 02/01/2019 7:44:28 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

BAMN is not a “civil rights group”. They are an insane Communist cult.


2 posted on 02/01/2019 7:50:26 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: yesthatjallen

That is the difference between Leftists and Conservatives.

We may detest and despise the KKK and other such organizations for their words, but if it is words only we defend their right to say them, as repulsive as they are.

The Left not only has no forbearance or observance of the 1st Amendment rights of those they disagree with, but hypocritically defend a group like Black Lives Matters which has openly called for violence against law enforcement.

I did a counter protest against the Westboro Baptist people outside Arlington National Cemetery, and as filthy and disgusting as their signs were, I didn’t perpetrate violence against them, as did none of our group.

That is why in this case the Leftist were the terrorists in this and the KKK members were the victims. Pretty simple.


3 posted on 02/01/2019 7:56:06 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Any group that threatens physical violence against another group, no matter how disgusting that other group may be, is still in violation of the law and deserves to be investigated.

SJWs do no get a pass simply for being "woke."

4 posted on 02/01/2019 7:57:59 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: yesthatjallen

This is reported to have occurred in 2016. Why run it as a story now?


5 posted on 02/01/2019 8:03:20 AM PST by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: yesthatjallen

Hmmmm...one hate group beating up on another....I’m finding it hard to actually care. I guess I’m just a bit pie-in-the-sky in hoping that this might bring an end to their ridiculous and anti-Constitutional “hate crime” legislation.

Besides, since it’s ok to threaten the life of the President and his family or threaten violence to overthrow the country, then, what exactly IS “hate speech” anyway? (rhetorical only- hate speech is anything some protected snowflake says it is)


6 posted on 02/01/2019 8:04:44 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: yesthatjallen
The FBI opened a “domestic terrorism” investigation into a civil rights group in California, labeling the activists “extremists” after they protested against neo-Nazis in 2016, new documents reveal.

2016, you say. Gee, who was President then? Of course the reporting will conveniently leave this out.

7 posted on 02/01/2019 8:04:48 AM PST by Dahoser
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
Exactly right! They are a communist front group. They've helped arrange the Central American "caravans" and are are affiliated with NAMBLA.

BAMN:

BAMN was founded in Berkeley, California in 1995 by attorney Shanta Driver and fellow activist Luke Massie in response to a statewide proposal to ban race-based affirmative action in employment and higher education. Liberal observers have noted BAMN’s links to the Trotskyite Revolutionary Workers League (RWL). In a 2001 interview with the Michigan Daily, Massie said that BAMN was “partially initiated by the RWL”; he further asserted, “The Revolutionary Workers League is a Trotskyist organization of which I’m a member […] We [RWL] are proud to be part of a whole lot of struggles and to have played a role in the founding of BAMN.”
DOCUMENTS TIE BERKELEY RIOT ORGANIZERS TO PRO-PEDOPHILIA GROUP, NAMBLA

For once, the FBI is paying attention to the anti-American communist front groups.

8 posted on 02/01/2019 8:06:51 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

You don’t get to violate the law, regardless of your views; having views is not a violation the law. It’s really not complicated.


9 posted on 02/01/2019 8:11:15 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: rlmorel

Yep while the KKK is a vile group ideologically they are not generally violent. they usually do their marching and then go home.

Leftist groups also have a vile ideology but they are almost universally violent. They don’t march and go home they attack anyone and everyone who disagrees with them.

Evil is as evil does.


10 posted on 02/01/2019 8:15:28 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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Yes. Facing off against those Westboro Baptist scumbags and reading their vile signs, I would have loved to overrun them and beat the tar out of them.

But I didn’t. Because I am a conservative, I respect the law, I can control my emotions, and I take responsiblity for my actions.

Leftists, like the immature children they are...cannot.

That is an illustration of just how different we are from them.


11 posted on 02/01/2019 8:18:27 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: yesthatjallen
To describe a group naming itself "By Any Means Necessary" as "a civil rights group" is journalistic FRAUD.
12 posted on 02/01/2019 8:19:57 AM PST by drpix
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To: yesthatjallen

hmmm “By ANY Means Necessary” — their very name advertises their violent fanaticism.


13 posted on 02/01/2019 9:38:29 AM PST by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: yesthatjallen

Hmmm. Who be da pres-a-dent in 2016?


14 posted on 02/01/2019 10:46:15 AM PST by I want the USA back (In any war between the civilized world and the savage support the civilized man. -Geller.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ping.


15 posted on 02/01/2019 6:55:54 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Related: Public School Teachers behind Violent Antifa Group
16 posted on 02/01/2019 8:56:21 PM PST by Fedora
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To: yesthatjallen

Ok, folks, it’s show time.

Thanks to Poster #8 Protect Our Freedom for exposing the communist (Trotskyite) origins of BAMN from the small but virulent, violence-leaning Revolutionary Workers League (RWL) [There should be something on the RWL at www.keywiki.org because some of the people in the online profiles at KW are or were members of it, and their lineage now to other “progressive/socialist” groups is extremely important to understand re the growth of new “progressive” organizations in nearly every state in the country].

By Any Means Necessary - that was a weekly column carried in the Trotskyite “Socialist Workers Party” newspaper, “The Militant” by black communists of the SWP including Mohammed Oliver, Sept. 21, 1984, “Capitalist greed, racism are killing Black babies” (about the issue of good health care for blacks, esp. babies) which included these sentences:

“We should follow the Cuban example. We need to make a revolution that puts workers and farmers in political power...”

. BAMN is a standard Marxist fighting concept to be used to overthrow capitalism, PERIOD. Keep this in mind when you read anything about BAMN.

BAMN also had a banner or two at Ferguson, Mo. and possibly Charlottesville, Va riots. Photos of those banners were posted by FR observers. I’ll try to find the articles and list them later.

The group “Property of the People” is just what I thought it would be, another Marxist, anti-internal security organization hiding under the guise of “Transparency” discovery of govt intelligence operations information.

It looks, sounds, and smells just like a successor to the Communist Party’s “FOIA, Inc.”, a “transparency” front named “Freedom of Information Act, Inc.” Don’t have the names right in front of me but it was headed by people close to the CPUSA. It’s close-time relative was the “Committee for Public Justice”, founded by former CPUSA member and still sympathizer Lillian Hellman, and aided by CPUSA id. member lawyers and other mixed reds and far-left liberals.

The fact that one co-founder and POTP counsel is an admitted member of the old cited Communist Party USA legal front, the National Lawyers Guild (NLG), gives you a good idea just how far to the left they are. While the NLG is no longer under direct control by the old CPUSAers (most of whom have died), it definitely has CP influence and has trained a lot of new Marxist lawyers to wage legal war against America’s internal security defense organizations and laws (and quite successfully).

There is so much published about the NLG that it would take another hard drive to list all the evidence of them being a Soviet-created organization in the 1930s (the US version of the Soviet’s International Red Aid group) to their creation of a youngster version of the NLG in the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR, not the rock group). Among the creators of CCR were William Kunstler (Chicago 7 lawyer, adulterer, mob lawyer (Rhode Island mob - Raymond Patriarca, the $500,000 fee was too much to resist); Arthur Kinoy, longtime communist who later tried to form his own Marxist party, NCIPA/Independent Political Organization; id. CPUSA member Morton Stavis; possibly Kunstler’s younger brother Mike who died young - his replacement radical and anger management candidate attorney Phil Hirschkopf (a “movement” lawyer); and Peter Weiss, suspected covert CPUSA member and possibly a Soviet/Hanoi asset due to his connections to radical groups in Africa and his role, along with his Hanoi-loving wife, Cora Weiss (Mobes, WSP, PCPJ, COLIFAM, Friendshipment and the Riverside Church’s pro-communist anti-disarmament program of the later red clergy William Sloan Coffin).

Re POTP, two of its top 3-4 leaders came out of the Georgetown University Law School, a law school that was radicalized through some of its teachers over the past 30 years. They included Rev. Father (Rep.) Drinan (D-Mass), a real psycho who violated Congressional rules by illegally going into his own folder in the files of the House Internal Security Committee of which he was a member.
Drinan promised a group of Communist Party/sympathizing lawyers that he would do everything he could to destroy the old HCUA/HISC but he was ousted off of it for his illegal behavior and the then Pope gave him a choice, stay a priest and leave politics, or give up his clergy status and remain. He left (he was always LEFT).

Another law professor was David Cole (CCR), a hardcore radical who is now a leader of the ACLU’s anti-intelligence campaigns. Cole is smart, shrewd, and an effective speaker if you don’t know how to read his real Marxist-oriented intentions.

Remember, Sandra Fluke, the “birth control” advocate and later congressional candidate (who lost big time) was attending GTU Law School when she and Russ Limbaugh went at it (Big mistake on her part).

There are other radical professors at GTU to the point that you wouldn’t recognize it from the 60’s/70’s when it was a leading school on Latin American/Foreign Affairs ( I own part of the Dean of the School of Foreign Affairs (or similar name) personal library which they sold off. His name was Edmund Walsh and he was one of the leaders of the “foreign affairs/studies” departments in the DC system, the others being Catholic University (Religious affairs, including Latin America; Geo. Wash Un. - School/Dept of Sino-Soviet Studies, the late Prof. Franz Michaels heading it along with Prof. Charles Moser; and American University’s “School of International Service” where I studied.

You wouldn’t recognize those programs now and some of their teachers are hard core Marxists (including AU’s former psycho Marxist professor Brady Tyson - LA).

Meanwhile back to POTP.

Someone needs to research POTP’s creator organization, “The Sparrow Project”, one I’m not acquainted with.

The former FBI agent mentioned in the story who reviewed the documents that POTP got thru their Transparency project, Mike German, is either teaching or working at the far-left Brennan Center (for Justice). It is as hardcore Left as you can get in that area, superceding the leftist John Jay College of Criminal Justice/Law.

Re BAMN leader Yvelta Felarca, I believe she was recently sentenced to some hard time in jail for criminal assault and battery (Berkeley riots sounds familiar). She is a real psycho radical.

And lastly, this article was from the U.K. “Guardian”, which is as anti-American and Marxist as its’ now defunct U.S. counterpart, the “Guardian”, a once CPUSA newspaper turned maoist which died in the 1990’s.

And that my friends, are some of the backstories to this article which the The Guardian didn’t publish.


17 posted on 02/01/2019 9:22:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (with)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

btt


18 posted on 02/01/2019 9:49:35 PM PST by Fedora
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Related thread on that article: Documents Tie Berkeley Riot Organizers To Pro-Pedophilia Group, NAMBLA.
19 posted on 02/01/2019 9:51:59 PM PST by Fedora
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
It looks, sounds, and smells just like a successor to the Communist Party’s “FOIA, Inc.”, a “transparency” front named “Freedom of Information Act, Inc.” Don’t have the names right in front of me but it was headed by people close to the CPUSA. It’s close-time relative was the “Committee for Public Justice”, founded by former CPUSA member and still sympathizer Lillian Hellman, and aided by CPUSA id. member lawyers and other mixed reds and far-left liberals.

Committe for Public Justice (CPJ): Formed in 1969 by Hellman, Hannah Weinstein (producer), and Jerome Weisner (MIT president), run by attorney Stephen Gillers, recruited Roger Wilkins (DOJ civil rights unit), Blair Clark (CBS), Ramsey Clark (former AG), Robert Coles (psychiatrist), Norman Dorsen (ACLU counsel), Burke Marshall (Kennedy associate, Clinton associate at Yale), Robert Silvers (NYT Book Review), Telford Taylor (Nuremberg prosecutor), Harold Willens (Business Executives Move for Vietnam Peace).

20 posted on 02/01/2019 10:03:45 PM PST by Fedora
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