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Over One Million Gun Owners Refuse to Obey Ban, No One Turning in Magazines
Black Listed news ^ | December 19, 2018 | By Matt Agorist

Posted on 12/22/2018 3:21:38 AM PST by vannrox

New Jersey — Unless you’ve been under a rock lately, then you’ve likely seen the unprecedented push by all levels of government to separate law abiding Americans from their guns. No, this is not some conspiracy theory. The president himself ushered in a new level of gun control doing what his liberal predecessor even refused to do by banning bump stocks. However, as states across the country seek to limit the ability of innocent people to defend themselves, people are disobeying.

In May, Gov. Phil Murphy signed a law that reduced the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines from 15 rounds to 10. Citizens immediately sued the government, citing the unconstitutional nature of the ban, but they failed.

“New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home,” the court wrote in their decision. “The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified.”

AG Gurbir Grewal applauded the ruling on Twitter stating: “This just in: for months, individuals have been challenging NJ’s limits on large capacity magazines—a sensible law to address mass shootings. Today, the court of appeals upheld the law. Big win for public safety and law enforcement safety!”

This month, citizens were given a December 11 deadline on their new ban on standard capacity magazines. The law effectively turned one million law abiding gun owners into criminals, literally over night if they failed to turn in the magazines.

Somehow, New Jersey lawmakers thought insane individuals who want to carry out mass shootings would be lining up to turn in their 15-round magazines as anyone caught with one of these banned magazines is now committing a fourth-degree felony. However, even the law abiding citizens are choosing to disobey—and that’s a good thing.

According to Ammoland.com, who says they spoke with multiple police departments throughout the state, no one has turned in their magazines.

Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AG’s office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance.

All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them.

AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled.

This act of disobedience is the only way that law-abiding citizens can effectively and peacefully fight back against the gun grabbers. And so far, it has been effective.

As TFTP has reported, we’ve seen similar acts of disobedience from other states like Illinois. In Effingham County, IL, the town board voted in April to order its employees not to enforce any laws that would “unconstitutionally restrict the Second Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution.

Effingham County State’s Attorney Bryan Kibler said the measure is meant to act as a warning shot to tell the state legislature that the county does not want unnecessary gun control measures, or for the sale of firearms to be jeopardized. The resolution states:

The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms is guaranteed as an Individual Right under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and under the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and; the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms for defense of Life, Liberty, and Property is regarded as an Inalienable Right by the People of Effingham County, Illinois, and the People of Effingham County, Illinois, derive economic benefit from all safe forms of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting conducted within Effingham County using all types of firearms allowable under the United States Constitution.

Board member David Campbell told Fox News that the county “decided it’s time for someone to take a hard stand.” Indeed, as we’ve noted time and again, rights are preserved and gained when good people make a stand and refuse to obey bad laws.


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KEYWORDS: ammo; bandemocrat; banglist; gun; newjersey
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To: redfreedom

I’m not in that state so I really can’t make any suggestions. I have no clue what’s legal or not legal there as for carrying in public.

But this is kind of telling...

“New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home,”

The 2nd gives constitutional right to self defense “anywhere’ not just in the home, so they are already in violation of rights with this perception.


21 posted on 12/22/2018 5:11:47 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Carry me back

“Trump shouldn’t have caved on...”

On those kind of things, he is taking the advice of his daughter and Kushner.


22 posted on 12/22/2018 5:16:02 AM PST by Beagle8U (Beto went to Liz Warren's genealogist to prove that he was 1/1000 Hispanic.)
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To: vannrox

If there is anything a corrupt and overreaching government should fear more than an angry citizenry, it’s a silent citizenry. It means any attempt to resolve a dispute thru talk is over.


23 posted on 12/22/2018 5:19:42 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: vannrox

And I’m still mourning the death of a gas station worker murdered this week at 4am in NJ. It was my local gas station for 3 years. I left the northeast 3 weeks ago and couldn’t be happier.


24 posted on 12/22/2018 5:21:12 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: vannrox

https://thenationalsentinel.com/2018/12/13/new-boulder-colorado-ar-15-law-seen-as-test-for-nationwide-gun-registration/comment-page-1/

Boulder Colorado ban is seen as a nation wide test.


25 posted on 12/22/2018 5:22:02 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sooth2222

Something very important in what you say here...

“California is in the lead through the courts now, New Jersey is following at the tail-end.”

And opposition to these actions need to be directly funded in mass from everywhere to nip them in the bud before they spread to other states who will take advantage of the precedent and follow suit.

But as far as details concerning magazine laws it is important to keep a close eye on the wording. This was the issue with the recently proposed magazine regulation in Florida. It was worded that any “firearm” with a capacity of more than ten rounds would be illegal. (not “Magazines”)

So this means even a 10 round magazine would still be illegal because the “firearm” it’s self will actually hold 11 total with one in the chamber. How these laws are worded is super important.


26 posted on 12/22/2018 5:31:14 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: vannrox

Effingham County has a new definition for “Sanctuary City”. 2nd Amendment rights, not illegal aliens, are being protected. Bravo!

We should use this term. Take it away from the Left.


27 posted on 12/22/2018 5:32:23 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Boycott ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NBC!)
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To: redfreedom

You’d have to attend an antifa rally top see why this is a bad idea.

They assault you. I would clear leather if i was in attendance. And some even carry their own rifle. Look at some infowars videos. What is scary is not what they do, but i think i would do in response.


28 posted on 12/22/2018 5:34:34 AM PST by Celerity
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To: vannrox
This has nothing to do with safety. Ayn Rand got it right decades ago:

"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

29 posted on 12/22/2018 5:47:54 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2.)
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To: vannrox

Expect some Demonicrat NJ judge to issue a blanket search warrant for over a million homes in NJ.


30 posted on 12/22/2018 5:49:46 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: mountainlion

Boulder was already nuts 30 yrs ago. I visited there briefly and never went back.


31 posted on 12/22/2018 5:52:54 AM PST by oldasrocks
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To: DeplorablePaul
Ct required that the magazines be registered. People lined up around the block.

You wouldn't see that in Michigan. There must be a lot of lead in the drinking water out east.
32 posted on 12/22/2018 6:05:24 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: vannrox

Dear control freak libs,

We’re never going to obey you.

You’re going to have to come up with something else.


33 posted on 12/22/2018 6:05:40 AM PST by chris37 (No wall? No vote.)
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To: DoodleBob

One of my Favorites by Ayn Rand. She nailed it exactly.


34 posted on 12/22/2018 6:16:36 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: vannrox
does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home

Anyone see a problem here?

I do not recall the Second Amendment mentioning "the home".

These Courts just pluck it out of the air.

35 posted on 12/22/2018 6:22:17 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: vannrox

Good. They have figured out that if they cave on the mags, the game will be over. The gov types will keep track of who owns mags and later come for their firearms.


36 posted on 12/22/2018 6:26:53 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: oldasrocks

Boulder was already nuts 30 yrs ago.

I grew up too close to boulder.

Boulder is 36 square miles surrounded by REALITY!!


37 posted on 12/22/2018 6:27:24 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: vannrox

They always take guns from non-violent, honest citizens, and deliberately leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


38 posted on 12/22/2018 6:40:02 AM PST by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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To: I want the USA back

https://youtu.be/a8_t1yC8sGo


39 posted on 12/22/2018 6:46:56 AM PST by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: DeplorablePaul; All
" CT required that mags be registered. People lined up around the block..."

CT resident here. Less than 10 thousand did so. The estimates are about 350 thousand non-compliant gun owners in CT.

The JG

40 posted on 12/22/2018 6:55:59 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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