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A rare case of a Federal Judge being sensible. No right is absolute and inciting people to terrorize someone is clearly beyond the pale.
1 posted on 11/17/2018 3:00:42 PM PST by NRx
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To: NRx

terrorizing and threatening a person is not “free speech”


2 posted on 11/17/2018 3:02:27 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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You’re drinking Wapo’s koolaid.

The Daily Stormer’s crime consisted of putting a public person’s name on the site (she was leading the protests against zspencer’s mother while trying to force her into selling their business and donating the money to her select people) and inviting people to give her their opinion while specifically warning against sending threats.

The threat to us is that if we urge people to contact our senator’s and a judge rules we are extremists, we will be held liable because a far leftist decides to claim that she received threats as a result without evidence whatsoever.


7 posted on 11/17/2018 3:10:48 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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"Congress shall make no law..." is a very absolute statement. That is not a debatable point.
9 posted on 11/17/2018 3:14:40 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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Ok. So we can shut down the Nation of Islam?

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” On Wednesday, a Montana federal judge denied Anglin’s motion to dismiss the case, holding that speech in encouraging anti-Semitic harassment was not entitled to First Amendment protection.”


10 posted on 11/17/2018 3:18:04 PM PST by 2banana (Were you)
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Spencer is rather heavily rumored to be controlled opposition, financed by the same guy who finances the Democrats.


14 posted on 11/17/2018 3:25:05 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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It has nothing to do with speech - Eric Swalwell just threatened and harassed a class of people - I don’t see judges or even the government demanding he step down, be blocked on the internet or be sued into oblivion.

Ergo - harassment as free speech is OK so long as you’re saying the right things?

That’s BS.

Don’t fall for the socialist brainwashing - what daily stormer did is what all socialists and antifa AND LGBTQ AND DEMOCRATS have been doing with impunity and legal approval for years. They just don’t want anybody opposing their ideas to do it.


15 posted on 11/17/2018 3:25:35 PM PST by Skywise
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Unless it’s a clear threat of violence with the immediate means to carry it out its protected Free Speech.

There is no such thing as “hate speech.” That’s a liberal fiction.

Once you start agreeing to limit speech, anything “offensive” to a leftist will be banned.

Just like gun rights. Don’t give them an inch.


16 posted on 11/17/2018 3:26:05 PM PST by TigerClaws
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‘Free speech’ was intended to allow unfettered criticism of the government, right up to the point of advocating violence. Many other kinds of speech may be and are prohibited. The idea that the original intent of the Founders was that pornography or ‘fighting words’ were covered by ‘freedom of speech’ is beyond ignorant.


20 posted on 11/17/2018 3:32:47 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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And if a pro-abortion agitator says “your mother should’ve aborted you” to a pro-life advocate?


23 posted on 11/17/2018 3:39:45 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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Spencer’s mother, Sherry Spencer, owned a ski home in the otherwise idyllic town of Whitefish, Mont. After facing local protests related to her son’s views, she reached out to Gersh, who in 2016 worked as a real estate agent, about selling the property.

Um, I see the Washington Post left out a few key details.

For starters, the protests were organized by Gersh herself who then kindly offered to buy Spencer's property for significantly under market value.

25 posted on 11/17/2018 3:41:19 PM PST by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 // Click my profile page for great Russian pop music videos.)
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Im sure threatening someone isn’t considered “freedom of speech” the fact that the person was a Neo-Nazi has nothing to do with it really.


27 posted on 11/17/2018 3:47:47 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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The call to harass was definitely criminal.

Judges should also apply this law to harassment of un-favored political beliefs.

However, it is still legal to harass another for their political beliefs. It appears even severe harassment, threatened and actual violence against some political beliefs is still OK according to law.

Keep that in mind.


28 posted on 11/17/2018 3:48:43 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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And will that judge rule the same on the anti-fa stalinists who harass and threaten people?


34 posted on 11/17/2018 4:00:39 PM PST by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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I wonder how the judge feels about calling for the k*lling of presidents they don’t like.


35 posted on 11/17/2018 4:01:01 PM PST by Kalamata (How to interpret The Revelation: http://bibleresearchtools.com/bible-study-video-series/)
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Pretty speech needs no protection.

Ugly, offensive speech does.


36 posted on 11/17/2018 4:06:17 PM PST by Kalamata (How to interpret The Revelation: http://bibleresearchtools.com/bible-study-video-series/)
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No right is absolute and inciting people to terrorize someone is clearly beyond the pale.

How does one incite people to do anything? Nobody,no matter how convincing,could convince me to do something like this.Of course communicating a treat to another,even if you have no intention to carry it out,is a crime...and *should* be a crime.I don't know if that's a factor here (I didn't read the entire piece).

Is stuff like this,even when assuming that no violence or threats of violence occurred,disgusting? Of course it is.But so is the Rat Party having officially declared those like me to be "deplorable","dregs",etc.

39 posted on 11/17/2018 4:26:42 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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Judge Dana Christensen is a Bammy Skidmark appointee. He considers himself a Federal judge-President, who makes law from the the Federal bench, in his own replica Oval Office inside his judge's chambers:

In late August 2018, Christensen placed a 14-day hold on grizzly bear hunting in Wyoming and Idaho after the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service lifted federal protections for grizzlies in Yellowstone National Park areas in 2017.

On September 24, 2018, Christensen released a 48-page ruling restoring the protections and cancelling the hunts altogether, citing that Fish & Wildlife's analysis of the threats to grizzly bears was lacking and that they "failed to make a reasoned decision" in considering the impact of delisting the Yellowstone grizzlies from protected species status.

Juck the fudge. He's a despotic Lefty authoritarian.

43 posted on 11/17/2018 4:50:44 PM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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I completely disagree with you and this ruling.

Trump gets thousands of Twitter responses harassing him a day—do you think that should be stopped by a judge, too? I’m not for what’s being said, but we must be free to say it.

Free Republic could be shut down for the same subjective reasons by a different judge, because our words are offensive and harassing, too.

51 posted on 11/17/2018 6:00:42 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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On Wednesday, a Montana federal judge denied Anglin’s motion to dismiss the case, holding that speech in encouraging anti-Semitic harassment was not entitled to First Amendment protection.

.....But Bashing Christians and discrimination against them is right on!

53 posted on 11/17/2018 7:17:04 PM PST by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-amputee)
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But the calls that most disturbed Tanya Gersh consisted only of the sound of gunshots being fired.

Or have you ever heard the sound of gunshots not being fired?

Regards,

58 posted on 11/18/2018 12:17:15 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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