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Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say
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Posted on 10/23/2018 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

By Denise Grady

Oct. 22, 2018

Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said that the Trump administration’s latest plan to define gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

But exactly what does determine gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are — is not so clear.

“We know that there is a significant, durable biological underpinning to gender identity,” Dr. Safer said. “What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakenews; gender; homoerotica; homosexualagenda; insanity; mentalillness; nastymedia; nyslimesfakenews; obscenity; queerporn; transgender; whiskeytangofoxtrot; xx; xy
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To: Sub-Driver

You’re not born a nutjob, you grow into that.


81 posted on 10/23/2018 1:53:53 PM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Somebody needs to neuter the Slimes.


82 posted on 10/23/2018 1:53:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver
"... people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes..."

If a lock is created with a single matching key, changing the definition of what defines an "open lock" or wishing the lock to be open, or outright declaring that a closed lock is an open one, does not change the physical fact that other keys will not open that lock.

83 posted on 10/23/2018 1:54:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This socalled leader is ignoring millions of years and people to make a point.


84 posted on 10/23/2018 1:54:21 PM PDT by ully2
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To: All

85 posted on 10/23/2018 1:54:46 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: reaganaut1

Gender is, and has always been, a grammatical term. The terms “cis” and “trans” are organic chemistry terms. I love how the soft stupid “sciences” borrow from legitimate academic fields to firm up ridiculous propositions that were the punchline for jokes a few generations ago.


86 posted on 10/23/2018 1:54:54 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Gender” itself is an invented term that was created for the purpose of pretending that the sex you are has nothing to do with your sex. In the real world, the only people who don’t believe their sex matches their gender are those with severe mental illness.


87 posted on 10/23/2018 1:55:10 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Sub-Driver; All
"Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender Useful Idiot, Experts Say"

There! Fixed it.

88 posted on 10/23/2018 1:55:14 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Sub-Driver

Why is that perverted filth published? Ban it!


89 posted on 10/23/2018 1:55:22 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: JPG

“Experts” use Penis Deprived.


90 posted on 10/23/2018 1:55:43 PM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Key question no one seems to want to talk about, fairly simple:

XX or XY ?

The number of people outside those bounds is pretty darn small.


91 posted on 10/23/2018 1:55:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Sub-Driver

Where is the /s tag?\
Sex is not determined by sex, a curious premise.


92 posted on 10/23/2018 1:56:01 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Lie.

93 posted on 10/23/2018 1:56:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Sub-Driver

Wait, a penis belong to what gender?


94 posted on 10/23/2018 1:56:49 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Sub-Driver

UFO Experts?


95 posted on 10/23/2018 1:57:21 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I think we are all tired of them, but I do think it is important to know the arguments they try to make to gullible people in order to support their lunacy.


96 posted on 10/23/2018 1:57:51 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
I’m getting tired of these clowns and we shouldn’t be pushing their adgenda by publishing their BS here on FR.


97 posted on 10/23/2018 1:59:39 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Sub-Driver

There are two sexes, genders, whatever.
XX and XY.
Female and male.
Everything else is varying types and degrees of mental illness.


98 posted on 10/23/2018 2:00:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: reaganaut1

Exactly: gender is a bogus term and no conservative should ever use it. We even use it here, every day! This is the wedge-word that pushes this crap into western consciousness. Pushed, mostly, by gay activists who are out to destroy civilization.


99 posted on 10/23/2018 2:01:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: blueplum

They get to “legal” mutilate genitals without necessarily being a member of the Islamic cult.


100 posted on 10/23/2018 2:01:43 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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