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Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say
New York Times ^

Posted on 10/23/2018 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

By Denise Grady

Oct. 22, 2018

Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said that the Trump administration’s latest plan to define gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

But exactly what does determine gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are — is not so clear.

“We know that there is a significant, durable biological underpinning to gender identity,” Dr. Safer said. “What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakenews; gender; homoerotica; homosexualagenda; insanity; mentalillness; nastymedia; nyslimesfakenews; obscenity; queerporn; transgender; whiskeytangofoxtrot; xx; xy
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To: bigbob

The first thing that happens to a newborn is blood tests, vaccines, sticks in it’s feet, weigh and measure, physical exam. The can always slip in a DNA test to make sure of the child’s sex et Al.

It’s not that complicated to find a solution.


61 posted on 10/23/2018 1:46:14 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmmm.... Elizabeth Warren claims to be a Cherokee, based on (at best) 1/64 percent probability; however, one cannot firmly identify a person’s gender on two (XX, XY) of the 46 chromosomes?


62 posted on 10/23/2018 1:46:14 PM PDT by ksc (Chromosomes, Warren, Gender, Cherokee,)
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To: papertyger

Jusf because someone is an MD doesn’t make them an expert on human nature.


63 posted on 10/23/2018 1:47:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clean_Sweep

Inasmuch as masculinity is essentially performative, so too is the conceptual penis. The penis, in the words of Judith Butler, “can only be understood through reference to what is barred from the signifier within the domain of corporeal legibility” (Butler, 1993). The penis should not be understood as an honest expression of the performer’s intent should it be presented in a performance of masculinity or hypermasculinity. Thus, the isomorphism between the conceptual penis and what’s referred to throughout discursive feminist literature as “toxic hypermasculinity,” is one defined upon a vector of male cultural machismo braggadocio, with the conceptual penis playing the roles of subject, object, and verb of action. The result of this trichotomy of roles is to place hypermasculine men both within and outside of competing discourses whose dynamics, as seen via post-structuralist discourse analysis, enact a systematic interplay of power in which hypermasculine men use the conceptual penis to move themselves from powerless subject positions to powerful ones.


64 posted on 10/23/2018 1:47:24 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Progressives need to get over their love affair with abortion.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Communism demoralizes.
NY Times is trying to conquer you.

Normal is abnormal. Ugly is good.
Genitals do not exist.

NY Times hates you.
NY Times is the Enemy of the People.


65 posted on 10/23/2018 1:47:36 PM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: Skywise

Meiosis occurs in the prostate, now?


66 posted on 10/23/2018 1:47:56 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s correct - anatomy does NOT determine gender.

Anatomy is an outward (and also functional, if you are normal and of moderately young age) indication of what your gender is.

Anatomy is determined by your DNA. If you have 2 X chromosomes, then you are female. If you have 1 X and 1 Y chromosome, then you are male. This will be reflected in literally every single cell of your body. It will be manifested in your outward sexual characteristics/anatomy.

Of course, there are a few very, very unfortunate people, who don’t have either XX or XY chromosome pairs, and these people are just not normal (and, many times, they are incapable of reproduction.

As far as the current fad of “deciding” whether you are male or female...that makes as much sense to me as “deciding” that you are God. Either way, you simply cannot be what you decide, you are what you are. The whole point of maturing is to learn to accept the world as it is, and to attempt to change it in ways that are feasible. FWIW, changing one’s anatomy CANNOT change one’s sex/gender...but it can mutilate you to the point of not being able to reproduce. Perhaps that is a good thing, given that mental illness is at least somewhat genetic.


67 posted on 10/23/2018 1:48:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And they claim conservatives are anti-science.


68 posted on 10/23/2018 1:48:29 PM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: Sub-Driver

Did these experts get their qualifications from the back of a matchbook ?


69 posted on 10/23/2018 1:48:39 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: jonno

Calling a man a woman because he believes it to be so is akin to giving a man that believes he’s Napolean a sword and a funny hat and telling him that if he invades Russia he’ll feel better about himself.


70 posted on 10/23/2018 1:49:00 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s real easy.

Holes or Poles.


71 posted on 10/23/2018 1:50:00 PM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: goldstategop

Read my post again s-l-o-w-l-y....


72 posted on 10/23/2018 1:50:23 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: ksc

Its amazing how liberals went from humoring us that same sex marriage is natural to telling us people suffering from gender identity disorder are normal.

Still trying to determine what’s logical about it.


73 posted on 10/23/2018 1:50:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Nutjob” must be plural. First, the so called “experts”. Then the writer of the article, who is stupid enough to believe that word carries any weight. That ship sailed long ago, about the time “experts” were predicting we’d all be dead now if we didn’t transfer a few trillion $’s to the Turd World via Al Gore’s carbon exchanges. PPPffffft!


74 posted on 10/23/2018 1:51:01 PM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: Sub-Driver
I suspect the government pays for these researchers. The government probably paid for the research that says too mmuch exercise is never enough.
75 posted on 10/23/2018 1:51:18 PM PDT by Stepan12 (It is Civll War right now..)
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To: Sub-Driver
1. Wanger

2. No Wanger

Simple

76 posted on 10/23/2018 1:52:03 PM PDT by JPG (MAGA)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m getting tired of these clowns and we shouldn’t be pushing their adgenda by publishing their BS here on FR.


77 posted on 10/23/2018 1:52:11 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Sub-Driver

No, it determines sex.


78 posted on 10/23/2018 1:52:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Abandoned by WHOM?

Certainly not any SANE person.


79 posted on 10/23/2018 1:52:45 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Sub-Driver

Chromosomes determine sex. There are 2 sexes. I am an expert on this. Have been since I took biology class in middle school.


80 posted on 10/23/2018 1:53:19 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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