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Army might have found its new rifle in Colorado Springs garage
Gazette ^ | Sep 30, 2018 | Tom Roeder

Posted on 10/01/2018 12:25:29 PM PDT by george76

The Army adopted its battle rifle in 1963 and has spent 55 years looking for a replacement for the M-16 and its variants.

They might have found it in Martin Grier’s Colorado Springs garage. Grier, a self-described inventor who has worked at a local bed and breakfast, built the new “ribbon gun” with a hobbyist’s tools. It looks like a space-age toy drawn by a fifth-grader.

But goofy origins and cartoon-looks aside, this could be the gun of the future. The Army is studying Grier’s gun and has ordered a military-grade prototype.

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The specifications are incredible, four 6 mm barrels cut side by side within one steel block. New ammunition blocks fired by electromagnetic actuators that could theoretically give the weapon a firing rate of 250 rounds per second.

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And then there’s the feature no soldier would turn down. “It’s called a power shot,” Grier said.

That’s the shotgun feature of this sniper-shot, machine-assault gun that can send four bullets simultaneously whizzing toward an enemy at more than 2,500 mph.

It isn’t science fiction. He’s built the gun and patented the technology behind it. Now his garage-based company, FD munitions, is hoping the Army will buy it.

“A multibore firearm, with several bores within a single barrel, could potentially exhibit many of the advantages of a multibarrel design, while reducing the size, weight and complexity disadvantages,” Grier wrote in his 2016 patent application.

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The last rifle that was seen as a possible replacement for the M-16 family of guns was tested for six years before the program was canceled in 2008.

The Army found that the XM-8, despite its high-tech looks, offered few advantages over the weapons troops have carried since Vietnam.

Grier is convinced that his weapon is so revolutionary that it will overcome Army foot-dragging.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; army; banglist; battlerifle; colorado; coloradosprings; election2018; election2020; fdmunitions; guns; m16; martingrier; nra; rifle; rkba; secondamendment; xm8
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To: Hugin
Upon looking at the picture it seems the writer doesn’t know the difference between “side by side” and over/under.

You're forgetting that all the street hoods hold the weapon sideways. /s

41 posted on 10/01/2018 1:33:34 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: buwaya

I have no idea what they currently use but the British ordered their FAL’s in semi auto only.


42 posted on 10/01/2018 1:34:57 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: FrankR

Each block holds four projectiles. That means you would need to change blocks at a rate 7.5 times faster than a conventional 30 round mag. Not very advantageous in a firefight.


43 posted on 10/01/2018 1:38:28 PM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: Charles Martel

You wanna rock and roll 100 years after the fact; you can’t go wrong with Browning.


44 posted on 10/01/2018 1:39:41 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: george76

すべてのロケット銃!

45 posted on 10/01/2018 1:41:03 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (I speak hyperbolically)
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To: ASOC

Nice cigarette lighter!


46 posted on 10/01/2018 1:44:31 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: allendale

Exactly what I thought.


47 posted on 10/01/2018 1:48:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BruceS
Unless a soldier has an ammo truck following him, this is stupid. Ammo takes up space and is heavy. Running out of ammo in a few seconds doesn't seem practical.

True enough. However, ammo weighs a heck of a lot less if you don't have to also cart along propellant, primer and brass.

48 posted on 10/01/2018 1:49:07 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

“Chop-Chop! You quit looking at Japanese girl’s boobies Bond-Sun, and please pay attention to this special ‘cigarette’ launcher thingy.”


49 posted on 10/01/2018 1:49:39 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy Mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Charles Martel

Interesting. I never saw a rifle design like that. As you say, pretty sophisticated for its era.


50 posted on 10/01/2018 1:51:04 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Malsua

Probably meant 2,500 FPS.


51 posted on 10/01/2018 1:52:20 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: yarddog

The British currently use the L85 series, a Stoner AR18-based system, with full auto capability.

There have been many controversies about it, almost all related to detail engineering and build quality. H&K was brought in to resolve those problems. However, details aside its in the same design and capability ballpark as all modern 5.56 automatic rifles.

The whole world uses very similar rifles these days.


52 posted on 10/01/2018 1:54:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: DaiHuy

That’s assuming one wants to use the “top speed” cited, and not the more normal operating modes.

Think of it (I am assuming) as a sort of burst-fire feature. One press of the trigger shoots four, then the magazine feeds another block of four. Press the trigger again, etc.


53 posted on 10/01/2018 1:56:32 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Thanks for the info.


54 posted on 10/01/2018 1:57:46 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: zeugma

Well, you will have to lug along propellant and primer and cases with this thing too.

The question here is whether the weight is greater or less than the equivalent number of rounds of conventional ammunition.

Whats been shown seems to be bulkier, at least, than conventional brass-cased ammo. I don’t know if the system as a whole is bulkier than the current systems, counting magazines.


55 posted on 10/01/2018 1:59:55 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

This way you can get four misses just a fast as you can get one . . .


56 posted on 10/01/2018 2:02:46 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: M Kehoe

“If you can pour sand in the breach and have a sustainable rate of fire, I’ll buy one.”

Or just buy an AK47.


57 posted on 10/01/2018 2:05:11 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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To: imardmd1

True.
On the other hand volume often has a quality of its own.


58 posted on 10/01/2018 2:05:35 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: george76
Here's a gun show video of the gun. (skip the first bit on gun sights.)

Pretty much every thing about it is explained. Ammo is in 5 shot blocks which link together and, when done are expelled
Forward Defense Munitions L5 Caseless Ammo Rifle
59 posted on 10/01/2018 2:10:28 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Para-Ord.45

OH JOY! More weight to hump - that will be a big hit with the troops


60 posted on 10/01/2018 2:14:18 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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