Posted on 07/22/2018 9:04:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Plans for US far-right figure Steve Bannon to exert his influence on the European parliament’s 2019 election have been met with alarm across Germany’s political spectrum. Bannon has become a controversial figure, known for his ties to the campaigns for the UK to leave the European Union and the election of US President Donald Trump.
“We have to fight now, with good arguments, confident and true,” said Michael Roth, a center-left Social Democrat (SPD) lawmaker and Minister of State for Europe in an interview with the Welt newspaper.
Europe should not “be afraid of nationalist campaigns with which Mr. Bannon would like to force Europe to its knees…our values are stronger than his hate and his lies.” […]
The pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) had even harsher words for Bannon, calling his plans for Europe “a frontal attack on the EU and European values.” …
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Why would residents of EU countries want the EU to regulate every aspect of your life? Why would people want to pay for companies to comply with 1oo regulations on a toothbrush or a bath towel? You are not permitted to buy a less expensive US toothbrush or bath towel or one from any other country either. And you will be taxed for the regulations and the company compliance.
Europe should not “be afraid of nationalist campaigns with which Mr. Bannon would like to force Europe to its knees…our values are stronger than his hate and his lies.” […] The pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) had even harsher words for Bannon, calling his plans for Europe “a frontal attack on the EU and European values.”
Hate? Lies? Irony much? Thanks Olog-hai.
How is it this Marxist German is “center-left” but Bannon is “far-right”?
Normal = far right.
That would require having good arguments to fight with, but the European left has abandoned reasoned argument for irrationality.
The left never used reasoned arguments in the first place.
If you look at stuff like “The Principles of Communism”, it sounds reasoned in places, but it’s riddled with dogmatic declarations and canards, and lots of “proof by verbosity”.
I myself do not think that Americans have the slightest ability to comprehend why the Europeans would crave a national, continent-wide Union as is the EU, effectively surrendering their sovereignty. It must be related to the scarring that is occurred over the two world wars that were fought there. But it is so contrary to American values and sensibilities. I am just offering an explanation, not a justification.
The thought was also to make European countries less homogenous through immigration, with the idea that under such circumstances it would never be possible for another Hitler to arise.
Their strategy will be to shut down the Bannon headquarters location immediately (it’s supposed to be in Brussels). Bannon will say fine, and move it into Poland....where the Poles square off when the EU says to kick them out, and they (the Poles) say own their land, and Bannon stays.
Then they will attempt to declare Bannon a non-guest in the EU, and mandate that he must leave Poland. There again, I’d expect Poland to square up against the EU.
All of this strategy stuff will play against the EU in public and bring coverage via social media.
In a normal EU representative election (next scheduled in June 2019)...they’d barely have half the people show up and vote. They intentionally run low-intensity campaigns. Well...with the Bannon affect, I’d suggest near 65-percent showing up and a right-wing win situation of 25-percent.
You are correct...the EU would need good arguments, and they haven’t accomplished that in thirty years.
To those nut cases, it might be. That dip wad is not center left, either. He is a FAR left lunatic
The EU has dogma, not arguments.
Y’all are starting to see it. The Germans have a big problem with nationalism for obvious historical reasons. They cannot grasp that just because a tyrant used/hijacked THEIR nationalist sentiments, that does not mean everybody else views nationalism as toxic like they do.
They have long sought to subsume their German identity into a broader European identity within which they can express Yurp nationalist thoughts without feeling bad about it. It helps this sentiment along that as the dominant economic power in Europe, they stand to gain by far the most from ever more European integration and ever more power for Brussels.
Other Europeans see this. There is a widespread recognition on the part of many that “more Europe” really means “more German control”. The Brits have opted out. They don’t have the same sense of guilt/shame over their history. The Eastern Europeans having only recently regained control over their own countries after 2 generations of Soviet domination are in no hurry to submit to German domination.
The only ones in Europe as anti nationalist as the Germans are the Belgians and that’s largely because with a country composed of 2 ethnic and language groups who each hate the other, they too have a problem expressing nationalist thoughts.
On a side note: its amazing how the Germans manage to overlook the socialist part of national socialism. Somehow they don’t have a problem with that....
As I said, the Germans felt so guilty about the Holocaust, they imported millions of Muslims who hate the Jews even more than the Nazis did.
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International socialism has always taken advantage of patriotism to expand itself. Even Red China these days speaks of “socialism with Chinese characteristics”.
Stalin was never an “International Socialist”, he was a hardcore Russian nationalist, who Russified the Soviet Union, against the expressed wishes of Lenin and Trotsky.
I have no idea why the EU countries would want to give up their own liberty and freedom.
It’s the only way to save our democracies.
That’s technically not possible, but certainly he took advantage of national patriotism (just as Xi Jinping is today); so that’s what I was talking about. Joseph and Adolf had a lot in common, being non-nationals running their “national” empires (Joseph from Georgia instead of Russia, Adolf from Austria instead of Germany).
Joseph still had no problem contrasting national socialism and fascism with his own “socialism in one country” by using the misnomer “far right”, despite the obvious commonalities of rhetoric.
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