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What Happened in Vegas(debunking conspiracy theories?)
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/8/2017 | Henry Percy

Posted on 10/08/2017 7:58:52 AM PDT by rktman

I imagine that this will light up the comments section, but someone needs to write it: the conspiracy theories cropping up over the Las Vegas shooting are as noisome as mushrooms on a dunghill after a spring rain. In discussing some of the more outlandish and offensive ones, I will not document them lest I drive more traffic to the authors' websites.

Law enforcement is withholding information from us.

Of course it is. It always does. That's called good practice before police have interviewed all who might have information – scarcely a revelation.

Do I wish they would release all the data after the investigation is complete? Yes. But that has never been standard practice in this country, nor in any other. Conspiracy theorists would do well to remember Occam's Razor.

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Yes folks step right up and posit your very own theory. We've seen a lot of comments about possible scenarios with this entire situation. Buyer beware right?
1 posted on 10/08/2017 7:58:52 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Amen.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 8:01:01 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: rktman

A Drone was used to kill.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 8:01:51 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: rktman

American citizens can’t handle the truth!


4 posted on 10/08/2017 8:03:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rktman
I don't have a theory about what this guy's motivations were, but I'm pretty sure that some of the information going around out there is absolutely false.

For example ... there's no way in hell this guy was a "professional gambler" who earned enough money to finance his lifestyle by winning money at casinos. For one thing, the casino business model is based on a rigged system where the house wins over the long term. And secondly, they don't give the kind of treatment that this guy apparently had (free rooms, etc.) to high rollers who actually WIN a lot of money. If anything, they would do whatever they could to chase people like that out the door.

5 posted on 10/08/2017 8:05:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: rktman

He was an isolated, nasty piece of work made even more angry at people having fun and enjoying themselves. This would be supported by the reports he had cased other concert venues before deciding on this one.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 8:06:25 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: rktman

Everybody loves a good conspiracy. But “conspiracy hunting” is getting your eye off the ball. The issue here is whether this guy was a converted Islamic jihadist.

This guy was a known loner. I personally think this guy was a loon who converted to Isalm and carried out “jihad” probably with the blessings of ISIS.

Actually Islamic jihad should be the presumption here until proven otherwise.

Below is a list of 93 deadly Islamic terror attacks made on American soil since 1972 that supports the presumption that this kind of unprovoked attack and mass killing are done by Islamic jihadism:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2017.05.19 USA Tampa, FL 2 0 A recent convert shoots two people to death for disrespecting Islam.
2017.04.18 USA Fresno, CA 3 0 Three men are gunned down at random by a convert to Islam yelling praises to Allah.
2017.01.31 USA Denver, CO 1 0 A pastor working as a security guard is shot to death at a transit office by a ‘radicalized’ Muslim.
2017.01.06 USA Fort Lauderdale, FL 5 6 A convert to Islam guns down five innocents in the baggage claim area of an airport.
2016.11.28 USA Columbus, OH 0 11 A Muslim immigrant goes on a stabbing rampage after expressing his desire to kill infidels.
2016.09.17 USA St. Cloud, MN 0 8 A former refugee goes on a stabbing spree at a shopping mall while speaking of Allah and asking potential victims if they are Muslim.
2016.09.17 USA NYC, NY 0 31 A former asylum seeker plants several explosives, one of which injures twenty-nine innocents. He also shot two policemen two days later.
2016.08.20 USA Roanoke, VA 0 2 A man and woman are stabbed maliciously by a ‘radicalized’ man yelling praises to Allah.
2016.06.13 USA Orlando, FL 49 53 An Islamic extremist massacres forty-nine people at a gay nightclub.
2016.02.11 USA Columbus, OH 0 4 Four people at a Christian-owned restaurant with an Israeli flag are slashed by a Muslim wielding a machete yelling ‘Allah Akbar’…
2016.01.07 USA Philadelphia, PA 0 1 A man shoots a police officer three times ‘in the name of Islam’.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A ‘very religious’ Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
2015.11.04 USA Merced, CA 0 4 A student vowing to behead and ‘praise Allah’ stabs four others on campus.
2015.07.16 USA Chattanooga, TN 5 2 A ‘devout Muslim’ stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
2015.05.03 USA Garland, TX 0 1 Two Muslims stage a suicide assault on a conference critical of Islam.
2015.02.14 USA Detroit, MI 0 2 Two men are stabbed by a Muslim who first verified that they were unbelievers.
2014.12.18 USA Morganton, NC 1 A convert to Islam shoots an elderly man three times in the head after watching ISIS videos.
2014.10.23 USA NYC, NY 0 5 Four rookie cops and a female bystander are assaulted with an axe by a Muslim who says he is acting in the cause of Allah.
2014.09.25 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
2014.06.25 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death ‘in revenge’ for Muslim deaths overseas.
2014.06.01 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
2014.04.27 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
2014.03.06 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
2013.08.04 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert “on a mission from Allah” stabs a store clerk to death.
2013.04.19 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
2013.04.15 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as ‘very religious’ detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
2013.03.24 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
2013.03.14 USA Vancouver, WA 0 2 Two people suffer knife injuries when a Muslim convert attempts to stab a non-Muslim to death over religious views outside a coffee shop.
2013.02.07 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
2012.11.12 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2012.06.15 USA Mission, TX 0 3 A man shoots his daughter, her boyfriend and her mother for letting the girl date a non-Muslim.
2012.01.15 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
2011.09.11 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
2011.04.30 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
2010.04.14 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to ‘take them back to Allah’ and out of the ‘world of sinners’.
2009.12.04 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for ‘persecuted’ Muslims.
2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too ‘Westernized.’ (10-20-09)
2009.06.01 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
2009.04.12 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
2009.02.12 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
2008.07.06 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2008.01.01 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their ‘Western’ lifestyle.
2007.02.20 USA Nashville, TN 0 1 A Muslim cab driver runs over a Christian after arguing about religion. The young man’s ankle and hip are broken by the vehicle.
2006.07.28 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2006.06.25 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
2006.06.16 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
2006.03.03 USA Chapel Hill, NC 0 9 Calling it the will of Allah, an Iranian immigrant plows his SUV into a crowd of students as ‘retribution’ for foreign policy overseas.
2004.04.15 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
2003.08.06 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a ‘religious revival’, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4” butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
2002.10.22 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
2002.10.14 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
2002.10.11 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
2002.10.09 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
2002.10.03 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
2002.10.02 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
2002.09.23 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
2002.09.21 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
2002.09.21 USA Atlanta, GA 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down an employee at a liquor store.
2002.07.04 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
2002.05.27 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
2002.03.19 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
2002.01.06 USA Tampa, FL 0 0 Fifteen year-old flies plane into an office building in Tampa. Suicide note reveals his admiration for Osama Bin Laden and desire to commit a terrorist attack.
2001.09.11 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
2001.09.11 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
2001.09.11 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
2000.03.17 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
1997.04.03 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
1997.03.23 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
1994.03.01 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
1993.02.26 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
1993.01.25 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
1990.11.05 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1990.01.31 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur’an were invalid.
1989.11.06 USA St. Louis, MO 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing ‘dishonor’ to their family by dating an ‘infidel’ African-American.
1980.08.31 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1980.07.22 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
1977.03.09 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B’nai B’rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
1974.04.16 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1974.04.01 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
1974.01.24 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
1973.12.24 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.22 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
1973.12.20 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
1973.12.13 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.12.11 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
1973.11.25 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.10.29 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1973.10.19 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
1973.07.18 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
1973.07.01 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
1973.01.19 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
1972.04.14 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.


7 posted on 10/08/2017 8:07:41 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: ilovesarah2012

Had someone on a thread from yesterday tell me that he/she has friends that commonly shoot stuff out to 600 yards and they could have taken out the POS. Uh, only problem.....there was no one available and on site last Sunday night to do that.


8 posted on 10/08/2017 8:07:53 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
One of Paddock's brothers thinks that Stephen Paddock's body was taken over by space aliens, like in Men in Black.

That's at least as plausible as some of the conspiracy theories I've read.

9 posted on 10/08/2017 8:08:19 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: rktman

I trust the FBI to be a lying pack of politically compromised scum with absolutely no concern for the privacy, safety, security of the American people and the even handed administration of justice. Is that a conspiracy theory?


10 posted on 10/08/2017 8:09:12 AM PDT by Stentor
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Well I’d feel better if that rat POS McCabe wasn’t running this. Hard to trust anything coming from his op.


11 posted on 10/08/2017 8:10:57 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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The guy was an operative. Probably working for homeland or some three letter, involving some terrorist baiting, and the situation got out of his control. Nothing else fits the available info, and clearly Paddock had plans to leave alive.

My personal opinion.


12 posted on 10/08/2017 8:13:38 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: rktman

So stupid. How would you like to be on the 31st or 33rd floor with someone shooting at the 32nd?


13 posted on 10/08/2017 8:14:06 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Stentor

LOL! No, they’ve proven themselves to no longer be trust worthy.


14 posted on 10/08/2017 8:14:16 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There were those that have said that would have made him hesitate. Yeah. Good thinkin’ folks. ;-)


15 posted on 10/08/2017 8:16:25 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

You are correct in the withholding part. Problem is the FBI is never consistent from case to case. In this case(Vegas) they have already allowed people to pocket money for photos and other information. Those bells can’t be unrung!


16 posted on 10/08/2017 8:17:58 AM PDT by DrDude (Hillary Clinton waddles into the swamp on a daily basis for bathing purposes only!)
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To: Jim 0216

Bump!


17 posted on 10/08/2017 8:19:50 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Jim 0216

Have you read anything stating he was a Muslim from family or people who knew him? Under what circumstances do you believe he decided to become a Muslim? Are you making this assumption based on ISIS assertions? Haven’t other Muslim killers made sure to credit their devotion to allah?


18 posted on 10/08/2017 8:20:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rktman

I’d discount any theory that has a rich agnostic senior citizen with a serious gambling habit suddenly converting to Islam.


19 posted on 10/08/2017 8:21:07 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t have a theory either but can’t help being amazed by all the weirdness!

Where is marilou’s brother reynaldo bustos?

“Myla was not home when Bustos left, but one of their children said a “patient” had picked him up from their house.”
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/936399/las-vegas-mass-shooting-stephen-paddock-marilou-danley-reynaldo-bustos#ixzz4uvhOtojN

And who is this first husband, the boxer, Leslie W. Darcey? I can only find James Leslie “Les” Darcy, an Australian boxer who died in 1917.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4957342/Las-Vegas-killer-s-Marilou-Danley-married-boxer.html


20 posted on 10/08/2017 8:24:28 AM PDT by glenduh
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