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How Can You Compare America to East Germany?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | February 22, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/22/2017 2:00:05 PM PST by Kaslin

RUSH: Now, last night on Fox, the Fox News Channel, there was a town hall on Trump’s immigration ideas and so forth and stuff in Jacksonville, Florida. And the first sound bite we have was obviously Florida residents, or we think it was Florida residents. I mean, the way the Democrats pack these things, you don’t know. But Fox says it’s a group of Florida residents about Trump’s immigration policy.

And one resident, Hatiche Iaconangelo was the guest or was one of the attendees. And so the question was asked, “So what do you think about what you’re hearing here tonight with Trump’s immigration plans and the overall thrust of the policy, what are you thinking out there, Hatiche?”

IACONANGELO: I’m horrified. I’m horrified. This is not the country I immigrated to. Sure, when I first immigrated 26 years ago from Germany, I am a native Berliner, I grew up with the wall. I know what the wall does to families. I witnessed people getting shot crossing over the wall. And I see us as a nation going towards that again. It’s horrifying.

RUSH: All right, now, what the hell is going on? This is why I think these people are plants. You want to compare the wall in the United States to the Berlin Wall? Do you know what the purpose of the Berlin Wall was? It was to keep people in because everybody wanted out. It was full-fledged communism. It was poverty stricken. It was totalitarianism. There was no freedom. The government was spying on everybody, listening in on everybody.

There wasn’t any future. Everybody wanted out. And there were people shot trying to go over the wall. There were people shot trying to go through the wall. And here comes somebody at a Fox News town hall trying to compare what she thinks Trump’s wall is gonna be to that (imitating woman), “I’ve been there, I’ve seen it, I don’t want any part of it.” Now, thankfully there was somebody in the audience who understood how ridiculous this was, a guy named Bill Korach.

KORACH: I was in Berlin when the wall was up, and the wall was meant to keep people in because the communist system was so horrible. This wall is being designed to protect our borders. We’re a sovereign nation. We should have sovereign borders. We’re a nation of laws. (applause) If we don’t have the rule of law, we don’t have sovereignty.

RUSH: Damn straight. Exactly right. Where did they find this woman? (imitating woman) “I was a Berliner, I’ve been here 26 years, and I lived with the Berlin Wall.” Folks, let me just tell you something, the people that lived in East Berlin, it was hell. It was abject hell, unless you were on the East Berlin Olympic team, and then they gave you sex change drugs and let you eat whatever you wanted to eat ’cause they had to put you on display as representing communism. If you weren’t on the Olympic team it was hell on earth, and nobody living there could any way compare the Berlin Wall to a wall here to protect the borders. This is just too suspicious to me.

Now, I will allow that in every individual there is a certain level of ignorance that we have to consider. But I don’t know how — I’ve met people, families, descendants of people that lived under communism, they’ve called this program over the years, and not a single one of them would ever even come close to comparing the Berlin Wall to keep people in to a nation trying to protect its borders.

This is why I think stuff like this — I’m not accusing anybody of anything. Don’t misunderstand. This is not CNN stacking the deck on everything. This is just too odd. I’m just glad this Bill Kovach guy was there, ’cause this guy was applauded big time. You heard it on the audio sound bite. I didn’t see the program; I’ve just got the sound bites here. But I’m telling you the other babe did not get applauded. Or if she did, we eliminated it so you wouldn’t be offended.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Hey, look, folks, I don’t want to be a nitpicker out there, you know me, I hate nitpickers, but there’s something about this Hatiche Iaconangelo who said that she’s lived with the Berlin Wall, she saw people get killed and fears the same thing is happening our country. Now, she said that she first immigrated 26 years ago from Germany. The Berlin Wall came down 27 and a half years ago. So the Berlin Wall came down a year and a half before she left, is what we are to believe here. I mean, it may add up, I don’t know. But she said she first immigrated. She doesn’t say she escaped.

See, if she’d said she escaped, that would have meant she herself got over the wall, but the wall was torn down a year and a half before she said she immigrated. So she could have lived there. I don’t know how old she is. Now, I didn’t see this. I don’t know if she’s a student now. I have no idea how old she is, and I know it would be unfair to judge based on her appearance. I wasn’t gonna do that, either. Very, very bad to do that, right? But she’s obviously old enough to have seen the wall if she immigrated 26 years ago, but it came down a year and a half before she left. I still don’t get how you can — we’ve got nothing like the Berlin Wall. Everybody wants in here. Everybody wanted out there, including her, eventually.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay. This woman says she’s a student at the University of North Florida and that she escaped East Germany, but the wall came down a year and a half before she left. There was nothing to escape. Unless maybe there was. I don’t know. It just doesn’t seem to make sense


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: berlinwall; immigration; jacksonville; presidenttrump

1 posted on 02/22/2017 2:00:05 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

That woman in the great jacket is a fraud. She smirked during her entire rant. A liar and a fraud.


2 posted on 02/22/2017 2:02:07 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Kaslin

I often compare NY State to East Germany

One party, leftist rule
Nothing gets done without approval from the center
Every decision is a political calculation
Confiscatory taxes. Every economic decision is about funding and protecting the state and its cronies
Outside of the capital, the rest of the state just becomes poorer and poorer
To find opportunity, young people must flee West.
Lots of snow in winter.


3 posted on 02/22/2017 2:09:21 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

Both are called “walls” but the reality is not the same. The silly-a$$ liberal is too obsessed with Trump-hate.


4 posted on 02/22/2017 2:09:26 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Kaslin

I want the East Germany-style landmines and machine guns at the border.


5 posted on 02/22/2017 2:10:25 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: Kaslin

Such a silly comparison. Communist countries have to build walls to keep people IN. We have to build a wall to keep people OUT. Absolutely no similarities.

But, given the current practices at state indoctrination centers, I suppose the average young person has no idea about the Berlin Wall.


6 posted on 02/22/2017 2:11:17 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose
It is a silly comparison, but wasn't East Germany to only country that built a fence and a wall to keep the people in?

BTW what kind of a name is Haticha? It certainly is not a German name, and neither is her last name, but she could be married to an Italian.

7 posted on 02/22/2017 2:18:47 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Of course she is a fraud. I don't even think she is from Berlin, or that she grew up in East Germany. Her first name isn't even German, and neither is her last name, but she could be married to an Italian.

Now to the second picture: St Augustine is the County seat of St John County. (I thought I throw that in)

8 posted on 02/22/2017 2:25:39 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin

Although her last name is Iaconangelo - which sounds Italian to me - her first name is a Turkish Muslim name and there are quite a few Turks in West Berlin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatice

She can call herself a “German” all she wants but she is a Turkish Muslim in background. Gee, do you think she would oppose Trump no matter what?


9 posted on 02/22/2017 2:29:58 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Kaslin

correction on the name. Hatice which is a Turkish name


10 posted on 02/22/2017 2:33:20 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin
" I am a native Berliner, I grew up with the wall

I think Rush is presuming she meant east-berlin.

She was probably a commie-sympathiser (or even professional propagandist) in west berlin.

If a sympathiser, as all such dolts, they think the grass is greener on the other side (of the wall). Though, in the east german case, this would be correct.

If a spy, she probably had all her propaganda work dry up so now she works for the democrats in the US.

11 posted on 02/22/2017 2:35:39 PM PST by fruser1
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To: vladimir998

They are quite a few Turks in Germany period, not just in West Berlin. I was born and raised in Germany (West) and I remember when they came.


12 posted on 02/22/2017 2:36:57 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: fruser1

Well Germany is not divided anymore since the wall came down, so there is only one Berlin and one Germany


13 posted on 02/22/2017 2:39:46 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin

Her parents were Muslim immigrants to Germany - Turkish and Macedonian. She was definitely a plant, she has been doing this schtick for some time:

http://jacksonville.com/news/2017-01-30/jacksonville-protest-president-trump-s-immigration-ban-scheduled-tuesday


14 posted on 02/22/2017 2:58:58 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; All
I just noticed that Rush had added more transcript to the article

See, if she’d said she escaped, that would have meant she herself got over the wall, but the wall was torn down a year and a half before she said she immigrated. So she could have lived there. I don’t know how old she is. Now, I didn’t see this. I don’t know if she’s a student now. I have no idea how old she is, and I know it would be unfair to judge based on her appearance. I wasn’t gonna do that, either. Very, very bad to do that, right? But she’s obviously old enough to have seen the wall if she immigrated 26 years ago, but it came down a year and a half before she left. I still don’t get how you can — we’ve got nothing like the Berlin Wall. Everybody wants in here. Everybody wanted out there, including her, eventually.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Okay. This woman says she’s a student at the University of North Florida and that she escaped East Germany, but the wall came down a year and a half before she left. There was nothing to escape. Unless maybe there was. I don’t know. It just doesn’t seem to make sense.

15 posted on 02/22/2017 4:50:32 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin

East Germany didn’t spy on its citizens to anywhere near the degree the United States does.

Those of you old enough to remember living through at least part of the Cold War, let that sink in.


16 posted on 02/22/2017 5:01:08 PM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Kaslin

“They are quite a few Turks in Germany period, not just in West Berlin. I was born and raised in Germany (West) and I remember when they came.”

I know there are Turks all over Germany - and especially in Western Berlin. Berlin alone is home to about 250,000 Turks. There are about 3,000,000 in the whole country.


17 posted on 02/22/2017 5:43:12 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Kaslin

Of course she is a fraud. I don’t even think she is from Berlin, or that she grew up in East Germany. Her first name isn’t even German, and neither is her last name, but she could be married to an Italian.

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I may have missed it but where does she was from east Germany or East Berlin? She says she was from Germany and “witnessed” the Berlin wall, it’s possible she witnessed it from the west.


18 posted on 02/22/2017 7:51:12 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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