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Did Melania Trump’s Lord’s Prayer Violate Church-State Separation? (twitter 'flips out')
Haaretz ^ | Feb 19, 2017 10:19 PM | Alexander Griffing

Posted on 02/19/2017 1:25:53 PM PST by drewh

On the 30th day of Donald Trump’s presidency, the president and his team seemingly launched his 2020 reelection campaign. Trump, 70, took to the stage to whip up support, denounce the media and present his version of how is administration is running so far. But the rare appearance by Melania Trump, 46, at the event proved just as controversial, and not just for her brief call for unity and subsequent swipe at critics, hers and his.

Twitter immediately lit up with praise and shock at the First Lady leading the crowd in prayer. Trump supporters relished the “Libs flipping out” and heaped praise on her demonstration of faith. Critics heatedly argued that Melania Trump had breached the separation between church and state, some sniping that she had to read the prayer from a sheet, evidently not knowing the text by heart.

However, concern that her prayer somehow shows a new joining together of church and state in the Trump administration is unfounded. Not only is there no official legal separation of church and state in the United States, but presidents have often and openly offered Christian prayers while in office, and never mind their wives, who are not officially elected members of government.  

Other presidents showed Christian values in other ways. Jimmy Carter, a Southern Baptist, taught Sunday school while in the White House. Bill Clinton, also a Baptist, could recite lengthy Bible passages from memory and skillfully employed religious language in his speeches. Harry Truman, a devout Baptist, spoke openly about how much his Christian values informed how he governed, but as a pious man was famously quoted saying, “I'm not very much impressed with men who publicly parade their religious beliefs.... I've always believed that religion is something to live by and not to talk about.”

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1 posted on 02/19/2017 1:25:53 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

And just think. The libs flipped out at the Trump being a “phony” Christian because he said “Two Corinthians.” Now it’s “CHURCH AND STATE CHURCH AND STATE!”

Just ask these stupid libs where “separation of church and state” exists in the constitution.


2 posted on 02/19/2017 1:27:36 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: drewh

Don’t forget President Franklin Roosevelt prayer in front of Congress.


3 posted on 02/19/2017 1:28:30 PM PST by Bigtigermike (D)
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To: drewh

No.
The Trump Campaign is a separate entity that paid for the rally.


4 posted on 02/19/2017 1:28:40 PM PST by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: drewh

Twitter flipping out over Melania’s public prayer?
Grumpy Cat says “Good!”.
The Dems have openly used churches for years to rally their troops. Now they complain when we decide to offer a prayer.
Not working anymore, Dems.


5 posted on 02/19/2017 1:28:44 PM PST by lee martell
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To: drewh

Haaretz gets it right for a change.

If I hear that phrase “separation of church and state” one more time from some ignorant lib, I’m going to avoid my next trip to Monticello.


6 posted on 02/19/2017 1:29:10 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: drewh

I think he is deliberately trying to make the left become is unhinged as possible.


7 posted on 02/19/2017 1:29:19 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: drewh

Gee, you mean like having prayers to open up Congress?

THESE PEOPLE ARE MORONS!


8 posted on 02/19/2017 1:29:37 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: drewh

It was all from a letter from Thomas Jefferson promising that in spite of what happened in France, he wasn’t going to forcibly outlaw Christianity. I doubt a sliver of those who speak the phrase know the context.


9 posted on 02/19/2017 1:30:57 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: drewh

I really don’t care - I was happy to hear that prayer at the beginning. Maybe that’s just the beginning of our long road back.


10 posted on 02/19/2017 1:31:12 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: MNDude
dont mess with mama bear or the snowflakes are gonna get it!


11 posted on 02/19/2017 1:31:33 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

There is no separation of Church and State in the US Constitution. The notion of such separation was penned in a letter by Thomas Jefferson.

Donald Trump in his official capacity may NOT WORK FOR CONGRESS in favoring one religion over another. But in his meetings with the people, he, his family members, or friends are free to exercise religious expression.


12 posted on 02/19/2017 1:31:40 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Organic Panic

Ask the idiots how praying is establishing a religion. No where in the Constitution does it say Congress should make a law forbidding prayer by public by government officials in public or otherwise.


13 posted on 02/19/2017 1:32:39 PM PST by Terry Mross (Now I understand how dictators gain power. Eventually people want some relief from the idiots.)
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To: drewh

F Libtards on Twitter


14 posted on 02/19/2017 1:33:07 PM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: drewh

No. She said let us pray, not pray my way or else

It was refreshing and I loved it.


15 posted on 02/19/2017 1:33:35 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Bigtigermike

Our two earliest colonies- Jamestown and Massachusetts Bay- were Christian. Mass Bay was Puritan. Jonathan Edwards speech in 1620 used to be taught in high school history.


16 posted on 02/19/2017 1:35:04 PM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: drewh

The House, the Senate and the military have chaplains.


17 posted on 02/19/2017 1:35:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: vladimir998

And the supreme Court.

Is there a congressional chaplain for every religion?


18 posted on 02/19/2017 1:35:26 PM PST by Terry Mross (Now I understand how dictators gain power. Eventually people want some relief from the idiots.)
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To: MNDude

If so, he is doing a fantastic job.


19 posted on 02/19/2017 1:36:21 PM PST by MamaB (Heb : 13:2)
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To: drewh
Yes only when it applies to us
20 posted on 02/19/2017 1:36:35 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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