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Vermont and Guns

Posted on 02/19/2017 11:42:32 AM PST by ISTHISONETAKEN

Over on DU someone started this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172202601

wondering why Vermont has such low gun violence when there are almost no laws restricting guns - even concealed carry w/out a permit...

A quick google shows that Vermont is the 'whitest' state in the country (+/- 96.2%) ...coincidence?


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1 posted on 02/19/2017 11:42:32 AM PST by ISTHISONETAKEN
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

The truth is notoriously racist.


2 posted on 02/19/2017 11:43:54 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

I always thought Maine was.


3 posted on 02/19/2017 11:44:21 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Maine and VT are both +/- 96% white - depends on which year you check for the stats to see which is whiter...


4 posted on 02/19/2017 11:46:04 AM PST by ISTHISONETAKEN
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN
"wondering why Vermont has such low gun violence when there are almost no laws restricting guns - even concealed carry w/out a permit..."

The dipwad answered his own question. I recall some adage about a well-armed society being a courteous society.

5 posted on 02/19/2017 11:46:18 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

The Green Mountains of Vermont is a very peaceful, beautiful place, i would love to own a home up there. I also love the demographics of the place.
Only problem is that almost everybody is a Moonbat.


6 posted on 02/19/2017 11:46:28 AM PST by mowowie (Press 2 for Deportation)
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To: miss marmelstein

Only if you don’t count the lobsters.


7 posted on 02/19/2017 11:47:04 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

ROTFL. Very yuge backfire. EPIC FAIL.


8 posted on 02/19/2017 11:47:33 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

I’m trying to answer like the left would. How’s this:

“No, it’s not that crime is low because nearly all people are white, it is that huge numbers of whites are drawn to Vermont BECAUSE of its low crime.”

Yea, that must it.


9 posted on 02/19/2017 11:50:12 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN
A quick google shows that Vermont is the 'whitest' state in the country (+/- 96.2%) ...coincidence?

Pure coincidence...

10 posted on 02/19/2017 11:52:41 AM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: cdcdawg

It’s also one of the least populated. The state has more cows than people. Lots of transplanted NY Hippies


11 posted on 02/19/2017 11:56:31 AM PST by nycteacher
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BobL wrote: “No, it’s not that crime is low because nearly all people are white, it is that huge numbers of whites are drawn to Vermont BECAUSE of its low crime.”

The proper response to that would be: “Are you saying that the reason inner cities have so much crime is because blacks are attracted there BECAUSE of the high crime rate.”


12 posted on 02/19/2017 11:57:11 AM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

I’m a Vermonter. We moved up here about 16 years ago. It’s absolutely beautiful country, if you can stand the taxes. And the neighbors are very nice, and welcoming. A lot of our children have moved here, with grandchildren. And we have lots of dogs, and some fantastically beautiful walks.

My quickest description of Vermonters here in FR is: “Hippies with guns.”

One of my son-in-laws Father, who lives near us, is an EXTREME leftist. He was in the movement to pull Vermont out of the union because America was too conservative. His wife was complaining that squirrels were cleaning out their bird feeder. So one day he took a shotgun, sat comfortably on the porch (he was pretty old even then) and shot 18 squirrels. I wondered what those shots were at the time, but the sound of guns is pretty common around here.


13 posted on 02/19/2017 11:59:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

This would be an interesting part of a book that could be written about the various regions of the United States and the local firearms laws and to compare and contrast such regions and laws; done in the same manner as David Kopel’s “The Samurai, The Mountie, and The Cowboy: Should America Adopt the Gun Controls of other Democracies?”.

You could do Northern New England (Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine) that have the among the most casual of gun controls and the lowest homicide and violent crime rates, Mid-Atlantic (NY, CT, MD, MA, RI, DC), Old West (PA, OH, IL, MI, MN, WI, IA), Old South (GA, NC, SC, VA, AL, LA, TN and where some of the first gun control laws were created under racial pretenses), possibly a chapter devoted to Texas on it’s own because of both it’s independence and involvement in the Civil War, the New West (MT, NV, NB, ND, SD, ID, UT, and CO) and the Pacific (CA, HI, WA, OR, and AK).

It would be interesting to look at the histories of these areas (in addition to social and ethnic makeup, etc, of course) and see how the firearms laws developed over the years (as example, California and Hawaii instituted waiting periods on firearms purchases beginning in the 1930s and 1940s, possibly due to concerns about the local Asian population and Japanese threat during World War II).


14 posted on 02/19/2017 11:59:57 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Ken H
A quick google shows that Vermont is the 'whitest' state in the country (+/- 96.2%) ...coincidence?

Ken H :"Pure coincidence..."

The purity of Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine is mostly determined by climate.

It is 9 months of winter, rudely interrupted by 3 months of summer -
It makes a hardy people, hardier !
People choose to move there only to get relief from social program taxes !


15 posted on 02/19/2017 12:03:51 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu--> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

I was born in Vermont but I live in Alaska now. I still own nearly forty acres on the Missisquoi River in very rural Northern VT. Nice place. Not as liberal as you would think, but I prefer the wilder Alaska lifestyle. Need to sell it.


16 posted on 02/19/2017 12:04:10 PM PST by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: mowowie

That’s a demographic too you know.


17 posted on 02/19/2017 12:04:46 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Cicero
It’s absolutely beautiful country, if you can stand the taxes.

And the ten months of winter...

18 posted on 02/19/2017 12:06:25 PM PST by ex91B10
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To: BobL

Chicken or egg? I guess it really doesn’t matter, does it?


19 posted on 02/19/2017 12:07:28 PM PST by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

No large metro areas in Vermont either.


20 posted on 02/19/2017 12:10:53 PM PST by Gumdrop
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