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Since when did the Palestinians become entitled to a state?
American Thinker ^ | January 1, 2017 | Ted Belman

Posted on 01/01/2017 12:42:49 PM PST by Kaslin

As Newt Gingrich said in 2011, “The Palestinians are an invented people.”

In 1964, the Palestine Liberation Organization was formed to liberate Palestine through armed struggle. But it took years for the notion of a Palestinian people to crystalize. In 1967, they were not recognized as such, nor were they considered a party to the conflict. Security Council Resolution 242 passed after the ’67 war, made no mention of them.

The US as a matter of policy, promoted the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and forced Israel to accept them in peace discussions at the Madrid Conference in 1991.

In 1993, Israel signed along with them the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements (Oslo I) and in 1995 the Interim Agreement on the West Bank (Oslo II) but these Accords made no mention of giving them a state.

Surprisingly, President George W. Bush gave it the first official nod for the first time in his vision speech of 2002. This speech came about in response to enormous pressure from Saudi Arabia which was demanding the creation of such a state. Even so, it was conditioned on the Palestinians fighting terror, not aiding it or abetting it. In fact, there were many other pre-conditions to the creation of the state. But the US and the world quickly forgot about the preconditions and went forward with the idea that the Palestinians were entitled to a state.

Then in 2004, Bush gave a very important letter of assurances to PM Sharon in order to support his plans for disengagement.

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KEYWORDS: israel; jordan; palestinians
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Within a couple of months of President Obama’s inauguration in 2009, he repudiated this contract. In response to this and other indicators, I wrote that Obama intended to impose a solution on Israel. I explained on these pages in 2009 that he had to repudiate it because the contract if allowed to stand, committed the US to oppose the imposition of any other plan.

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1 posted on 01/01/2017 12:42:49 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
This speech came about in response to enormous pressure from Saudi Arabia which was demanding the creation of such a state.

What did we elect across three Bush terms?

2 posted on 01/01/2017 12:46:23 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Kaslin

https://2001-2009.state.gov/secretary/rm/2006/77149.htm

...SECRETARY [Conoleezza] RICE: Back to the question of the territories for the Palestinian state. First of all, the United States has made clear that we expect it to be a viable and contiguous state when it is created...

...A contiguous state, as Olmert indicated and as was confirmed by President Bush, this is our goal and any obstacles on that path will obstruct and undermine these efforts...


3 posted on 01/01/2017 12:50:01 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Kaslin

They have one: Jordan.


4 posted on 01/01/2017 12:52:08 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Kaslin

In 1946. And they got their state which is presently called Jordan. The creation of another state for the Palestinians has no historic basis. The two state solution already exists and the current dribble coming from Ouch-I-got-a-splinter-in-my-ass-so-I-deserve-a-purple-heart Kerry is technically the “three state solution”.

Hell, just google the 1939 Palestinian flag for a eye opening tidbit of information.


5 posted on 01/01/2017 12:53:12 PM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Kaslin

We also need to know why Jews do not have the same right to settle in the West Bank as Muslims. Has that land reverted to Jordanean sovereignty?


6 posted on 01/01/2017 12:59:18 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Kaslin

The fakestinians are the worlds biggest wellfare case.
They don’t do anything but take the worlds money and use it to terrorize others . They don’t deserve a country that they are totally incapable of running as anything other than a terror state.

There is no such people as a Palestinian .
Palestinian is just Latin for the English word Philistine used in the bible . The Philistines were not Arabs and the word means INVADER .

The land of Israel belongs to the descendants of Jacob whom God renamed Israel , it does not nor has it ever rightfully belonged to any Arabs nor will it ever belong to them. The world insist on splitting this land and handing to a bunch of terrorist that teach their children to murder others then God himself will spit them out .


7 posted on 01/01/2017 1:06:38 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Kaslin

Call a news conference. Serve everyone Bacon. Tell everyone at the news conference nobody talks till everyone eats their Bacon. Conference will adjourn and, as usual, nothing will be acomplished.


8 posted on 01/01/2017 1:07:12 PM PST by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: Kaslin

Just posted on another thread from wiki. Bibi and Fred Trump became friends when he worked in NYC for the UN as a young man The Trump - Bibi friendship goes back decades

Hope he comes to the inaugeration as a representative of the memory of Fred !


9 posted on 01/01/2017 1:12:15 PM PST by hoosiermama (“I will honor Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all year.” Dickens)
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To: Lera
A friend of mine had a Banana Company , about 10 years ago he was at the docks in some South American

The UN confiscated his bananas and told him they were going to pay him 7 times what he had them sold for in Florida.

10 posted on 01/01/2017 1:15:07 PM PST by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: Kaslin

“Surprisingly, President George W. Bush gave it the first official nod for the first time in his vision speech of 2002.”

Yeah, that’s a real shocker.


11 posted on 01/01/2017 1:16:02 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Kaslin

I’m still trying to figure out when, in the last 50 or 60 years, the Palestinians became a people.


12 posted on 01/01/2017 1:17:47 PM PST by Ingtar (.)
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To: Ingtar

I don’t think you are alone in this.


13 posted on 01/01/2017 1:27:30 PM PST by Kaslin (Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: jjotto
A divided Israel.

Yet, as others also note, people just can't find "America in the Bible."


14 posted on 01/01/2017 1:31:21 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Kaslin

See-Trans-Jordan. Lot of good books out there but like Joan Peters, From Time Immemorial because of the hundred plus pages of appendixes and footnotes.


15 posted on 01/01/2017 1:32:45 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Ingtar; Kaslin

i force myself to label them Arabs now.

They really engrained that (p) word in my noggin.


16 posted on 01/01/2017 1:33:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Recall John McCain. NOW, before he gets us in WWIII.)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.; jjotto

As you noted about America not mentioned in the bible , she may or may not survive . One thing is for sure though , the promises that God made to Abraham will one day be fulfilled.
There may not be an America one day but there will always be an Israel. The world is going to be totally surprised when they see just how huge Israel will one day be.

Ezekiel’s Temple will one day be built by Messiah Ben David himself . It’s going to be 8 1/2 miles wide alone and the world is going to have nothing to say about it.

The fakestinians will one day be spit off that land . God only allows people to misbehave so much and they are just about at that point.One day they will cease to exist.


17 posted on 01/01/2017 1:51:09 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.
A divided Israel.

Yeah...sure...right. When Hell freezes over.
Of course, Israel would never use its nuclear weapons. Suuuure.

18 posted on 01/01/2017 2:05:32 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Kaslin

“palestinian” is a title modernly assumed by arabs of various origins to give them some sense of “national” identity in their hatred and war against the Jews of Israel.

In other words, from a historical perspective, it’s made-up.

It derives primarily for the word “Philistia” which was applied by the Romans, who used it derogatorily.

There really are no “palestinians” but for essentially those Jews both in the Holy Land and in Europe, prior to their migration to Israel after WWII.


19 posted on 01/01/2017 2:17:08 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Future Snake Eater

[This speech came about in response to enormous pressure from Saudi Arabia which was demanding the creation of such a state.]

I guess we’re not surprised. But then, Saudi Arabia was the most logical target, along with the training camps in Afghanistan, in the wake of 9/11.

And they own State - which easily explains Condi, Colon (yes on purpose), Hillary, Kerry.....


20 posted on 01/01/2017 2:29:20 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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