"In the old days the Peace Officers shot or hanged the bad guy then there was peace. Now they have to arrest the perp. The perp gets turned loose by some judge and then there is no peace."
Posted on 01/01/2017 4:06:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet
I think that ALOT of the 'COPS'" Problems stem from when they went from being "Peace Officers" to "Law Enforcement".
My kids are dismissed from school.
Remember....Behind all government school teachers stand armed police, courts, and juvenile prisons. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)
Once in the kiddie prisons ( misnamed schools) every First Amendment Right of the child is trashed ( free speech, press, assembly, and expression of religion). They are fed a NON-stop godless worldview that is government sanctioned and is NOT religiously neutral in content or consequences.
Much of the social pathology seen in schools resembles that of prison protection gangs.
The children are treated like prisoners, marched about to the sound of bells, told when to eat, rest, exercise, and speak. Even their play grounds resemble prison exercise yards. What was the child's only crime? He was allowed to be born.
I'm retired now, but I served 24 years in law enforcement after retiring from the army and saw first-hand this merging of military equipment and tactics with law enforcement operations take place soon after 9/11. Not only that, but at about the same time, I noticed that our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan had taken on the role of law enforcement officers with their "Nation Building" missions.
In my opinion, and my opinion ain't worth squat, a nation should never try to make soldiers out of their cops, and should never try to make cops out of their soldiers, as their missions aren't the same. A soldier's mission is to close with and violently destroy the enemy, and a police officer's mission is to serve and protect the civilian population, so their training, equipment, and mindset are incompatible with each other.
Privatize all schooling.
Perhaps part of the problem stems from calling them “Cops” vs. Police or Police Officers
Militizaration started long before 9/11 as part of the Drug War.
Psst - they’re still ‘peace officers’ in many states. Including California, where the cops actually do wrongfully shoot people regularly.
The problem began in the 1970s.
http://i.imgur.com/9KiLVek.png
A wave of police assassinations around the US prompted the police, with the encouragement of the federal government, to change their tactics from “Old West style” to “SWAT”. In practical terms this meant several things.
1) Police were now supposed to “establish control and dominance” in situations, even if their authority was already recognized by those involved. This led to many non-confrontational events becoming confrontational.
2) Police were encouraged to frequently brandish their gun, but as the expression goes, “a gun will not make a bad situation better, but it can make a good situation bad.”
This was made far worse because guns only have three “modes”: holstered, brandished, and firing. For the vast majority of situations, this isn’t enough; which is why many police just adore the Taser, because it gives them a lot more options that are less-than-lethal. Even more important because other weapons, like billy clubs, blackjacks and saps, were discouraged or forbidden.
http://i.imgur.com/9jiErT2.jpg
3) Police were encouraged to isolate themselves from the public. A cop or two in their car, who would patrol a large area, and not know or be known by those who lived there.
4) Paramilitarization. The idea of equipping the police with *military* weapons and equipment. This was made possible by the grotesque asset forfeiture system, a percentage of which was given to local police, as long as it was spent on surplus military weapons and equipment. In the later stages, communications equipment easy to monitor by the federal police. This began the movement to federalize local police operations.
5) Training and certification at police academies. This was done to standardize local police operations to conform to SWAT, and thus federal, tactics.
6) Paralleling all of this were court decisions and federal mandates that ignored reality in the pursuit of an imaginary equality. “Equality before the law” is a good idea, but “equality of police procedure” can be both annoying to the public and inefficient when done by the police.
For example, a drunken brawl between a couple in a blue collar bar (break it up, put them in jail to sober up, then let them go) is inherently different than two violinists arguing over which one is the bassoonist’s real girlfriend after a concert (tell them to behave and go home.)
Requiring the police to treat the two the same is neither wise nor sensible. And while both can be classified as “domestic disputes”, that is where the resemblance ends.
"In the old days the Peace Officers shot or hanged the bad guy, then there was peace. Now they have to arrest the perp. The perp gets turned loose by some judge, and then there is no peace."
I think this ought to be in general chat
>>I think a lot of “COPS Problems” as you refer to them stem from not getting paid enough.
Wages have been in decline for decades. Nobody gets paid enough. Most of us don’t lash out by breaking the things we are trusted to care for in our jobs—except teachers and cops.
LOL.....good one.
Now they're just swatting....everything. Every sitch is a swat call. Warrant for a guy selling drugs....SWAT, distraught female locked in a car with gun to her head....SWAT, teenager in a park with what looks like a weapon....SWAT.
In fact, swat team raids in the U.S. have risen from approx. 17,000 to over 80,000 in the past decade. All thanx to the militarization of local law enforcement.
Posse Comitatus...uh uh uuuuuuh. That no longer ties the hands of those charged with “protecting” us. Just take a look and you'll see, we now have military patrolling our streets, they just call’em....police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIMf9wFQSXg
Militizaration started long before 9/11 as part of the Drug War.
Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt.
You can get a good picture of how much we've changed just by going back through the history of this country to see what exactly constituted "law enforcement" at any given time. For generations, the classic symbol of law enforcement in America was the rural county sheriff. His role was very different from what police officers do today. There was never any illusion that people needed a sheriff to protect them -- since an armed citizenry was perfectly capable of protecting itself. In fact, the original role of a law enforcement officer was to protect accused criminals from law-abiding citizens -- by taking those criminals into protective custody where they awaited trial through a legitimate U.S. legal process.
The use of the term "outlaw" on the American frontier illustrates this perfectly. Contrary to popular belief, the word "outlaw" was not used to describe a person whose actions were "outside the law" from a standpoint of illegality. In fact, the term was used to describe a person whose actions were so reprehensible that he was no longer considered worthy of protection under the law -- i.e., he was living "outside the law" and therefore had forfeited any rights he may have had to due process, etc. So a person who was deemed an outlaw basically had a bounty put on his head, and any law-abiding citizen was free to do whatever was necessary (including killing the bastard) without fear of any legal trouble.
Of course, we've long forgotten what any of this even means anymore. But that's to be expected when you live in a nation whose government is perfectly comfortable having its agents grope law-abiding citizens at "TSA checkpoints," while that same government openly acknowledges that it cannot -- and will not -- do anything to keep millions of invaders from pouring across our southern border.
Nor will anyone ever be paid enough. No matter how much one is paid, one will always want more. Back when I was working, some people I worked with would say, “If they paid me more, I would work more”. Well, they were paid more, but did they work more? No, they only continued to say , “I am not being paid enough, I need to be paid more.”
Political activists within certain areas and Obama's policies regarding how they should ignore some very serious laws or be harassed from her e to kingdom-come play a bigger role than calling them "Peace Officers".
the feral denizens of American cities do not recogize the laaws of civilized people. tribal law prevails
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