Posted on 01/01/2017 4:06:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet
I think that ALOT of the 'COPS'" Problems stem from when they went from being "Peace Officers" to "Law Enforcement".
Tomaeto/Tomoto
Are you suggesting that just by wording a job description that it left open season for LEO’s to open disregard of civil liberties on the population? That is working just wonderfully in Chicago, isn’t it?
When did this happen, approximately?
They watch too many episodes of “COPS”.
Are you serious?
“ALOT” isn’t a real word, you know.
Probably around the time schools started using the term,Early Release vs Early Dismissal.
That one really pisses me off and I don’t have kids.
Its an incarceration term and kids are not incarcerated.
I think a lot of “COPS Problems” as you refer to them stem from not getting paid enough.
I hear the police have gone from Peace Keeping to Law Enforcement over there.
I have posted numerous times that I was a peace officer and saw the job changing around the 80’s. The reason was LAWYERS looking to sue. For example, I arrested a guy for public intox. Took him home, up three flight of steps and handed him over to the wife. He later tried to traverse the stairs, fell two flights and I was sued for not arresting, incarcerating him. Cost the city a lot of money. From then on, NOOOOO breaks for PI,DUI,D&D or damn near anything.
Another issue is single officer cars. After initial training there is less effective molding of attitudes. Nominally in groups people will tend to conform to a more normal standards. There are also some cops that are just bad at dealing with people. I had a boss who was a NM State Trooper for a while. He had a coworker that could escalate any situation to a fight and then hose everybody (including cops) down with OC during the resultant fight.
There are still a lot of good cops on the streets. At my last work location I worked with the local sheriff's department quite a bit. They had a lot of really talented folks and I learned a lot from them.
In the old days the Peace Officers shot or hung the bad guy theh there was peace. Now they have to arrest the perp. The perp gets turned loose by some judge and then there is no peace.
I think part of the problem originated around the time when every department, regardless of how small, or the area of jurisdiction, felt the need to have their own SWAT teams and or take on a more military tone.
Too true. And I'm talking the beat level cops.
The pay scale is WAY disproportionate between the upper ranks and the ones in the line of fire.
Columbia SC - the starting pay is ridiculous. Like around 35K per year.
And as other posters have noted. These guys and gals are dealing with the dreck of society.
Have you MET the kids coming out of our public schools? It makes you want to start nuking the planet from orbit.
They work for the government...
I think you hit the nail on the head. Most individual police officers are just decent citizens doing their job....although I do personally know some that are on power trips.
The real problem is the over-reach of the national and state level laws. It is not possible for ANYONE to avoid breaking some law these days. There are so many we can’t even know them all.
And who is the first line...the government face the people see? The police.
Take for example that black guy in NYC a few years ago who was stopped by the NYPD for selling bootleg cigarettes and ended up dying. The NYPD was charged with “racism” for this, but geeze.....the guy died for a few penny tax on a smoke.
The people who should have paid for this are the money-grubbing petty bureaucrats who set these taxes. THEY are the ones who should have had their neighborhoods marched through.
These petty thieves hide behind the face of the police...and the police pay for it.
Good topic. Thanks for posting.
The issue is respect. We used to respect the police on a human level. Society respected the uniform. Children had a healthy fear and respect. We respected the police to excersize discretion. We no longer respect them, the job and their authority.
< I disagree, raving been former LEO. They are more motivated by the power of the badge, the gun, and respect it instantly commands. You take away the badge and the gun, you can up the pay but you're not going to get more recruits if they know they won't be receiving them going in. True answer - Better parenting at home and removal of all indoctrinational materials from school curriculum
Sez you ";^)
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