Posted on 06/08/2016 12:14:51 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
Oklahoma Highway Patrol Uses New Device To Seize Money Used During The Commission Of - News9.com
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Posted: Jun 07, 2016 5:57PM CDT Aaron Brilbeck, News 9
You may have heard of civil asset forfeiture.
That's where police can seize your property and cash without first proving you committed a crime; without a warrant and without arresting you, as long as they suspect that your property is somehow tied to a crime.
Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.
It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month.
Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money.
"We're gonna look for different factors in the way that you're acting, Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent said. We're gonna look for if there's a difference in your story. If there's someway that we can prove that you're falsifying information to us about your business."
I answered your question, "Are you saying that those arrested for drugs are innocent?", with a yes. Yes, they are innocent, until proven guilty.
. If, however, they are found not-guilty, they are let go and also their money is let go. Simple. Follow the law. Keep your cash.
Wrong-o, Mary Lou.
From Heritage Foundation:
Additionally, I can come up with hundreds, maybe even thousands of cases of civil forfeiture used abusively -- even a set of seizures where people's cars were taking because the CLUB OWNER of the club they visited violated the law -- but I see you will discount any or all of those as 'cherry picked', so there is no reasoning with you. You are an extreme statist Police State lover, and would have been George Soros's Kapo friend as you rounded up your fellow Jews.
So, obviously, if you want to transport a few thousand Ben Franklins from point A to point B, you just read the mag stripe off your prepaid card and email it to point B, where the recipient encodes it onto a card and spends it.
Cops have to do their job — patronizing shady clubs dealing with drugs? If you are, good luck with whitewashing that stash of cash in your car. The justice system is based on due process. You do NOT have to worry about anything if you are innocent. Otherwise the constitutional system breaks down and the mob will rule.
However, civil forfeiture should be strictly illegal. If the price is losing the drug war, it is not too high a price.
For everything except forfeiture. I've shown you the law and the analysis, but like a good little statist, you screw your eyes shut and yell "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!"
You do NOT have to worry about anything if you are innocent.
LOL! Yer funny. :)
You have proven nothing. I will not take your so called analysis over the law. The law is clear. Without the due process of the law, you cannot be deprived of life, liberty, and property. Calling other badge locker won’t prove anything. I believe in the justice system, unlike you.
SCOTUS says you are wrong.
You can be completely innocent of any crime -- not even ACCUSED!-- and your property is still forfeit.
If you feel this is Constitutional, then you are a Statist copsucker.
Even the case you cited, the woman’s car was used by her husband to commit a crime. It was her husband’s car, too. Can you show me a property seizure where the owner or the guardian wasn’t involved in a crime? If not, the constitutional due process was followed. Stop making excuses for the criminals.
>>rely on just the county sheriff and 2nd Amendment.<<
I’m not too impressed with the Democrat sheriff we now have in Washoe County, NV.
You are all for an innocent person having their property seized.
Yeah, you’re evil.
We’re done here.
“You are all for an innocent person having their property seized.”
No, but if your husband is committing crime using the property, that property can be seized. The moral of the story — be responsible and avoid criminals. You should be fine.
“Yeah, youre evil.
Were done here.”
I’m in the side of the good. Bye.
Its now the Highwaymen, not Highway Patrol
and the CO of this merry band is the Sheriff of Nottingham.
Is there a way to expel a state from the Union?
The typical pretzel logic of the anti-private-property statist jackboot licker.
Nothing illogical about it. If a husband commits a crime, you don’t whine how jailing him affects his poor innocent kids. Justice doesn’t care, as long as the due process was followed.
Don’t commit crime and your property, liberty, and life will not be taken away by the constitutional government. America isn’t Cuba or North Korea. Follow the law and be reaponsible and you will be fine.
Then why aren't the uniformed criminals in jail?
“Is there a way to expel a state from the Union?”
Expel the most Republican conservative State? You must be from Massachusetts.
About 10 years ago an old girlfriend’s son went from NC to TX to help a friend of his with a large repo job and made $3000 in a couple of days, paid in cash.
Driving back home at 2:00am he gets pulled out in the sticks by a deputy for no reason other than having out of state plates.
The money was seized and he was threatened with ‘money laundering and locked up in a po-dunk TX county jail. His mother was put in touch with a local attorney who told her it was real bad and it would take $15,000 to make it go away. She wired the money and the kid was freed.
The cops kept the $3,000. I’m sure the attorney and cops have a racket going on and some of the attorney fee was split with the sheriff.
Dirtbags, all of them.
FRiends, I am in complete agreement with you.
Civil Forfeiture and Any violation of our constitutional rights is absolutely wrong.
This ERAD bank snoop and seize scheme is definitely going to be abused.
We need solid use guidelines that adhere to the 4th and 5th.
Liberty first and foremost.
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