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To: Lazamataz

You have proven nothing. I will not take your so called analysis over the law. The law is clear. Without the due process of the law, you cannot be deprived of life, liberty, and property. Calling other badge locker won’t prove anything. I believe in the justice system, unlike you.


67 posted on 06/08/2016 4:58:33 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
You have proven nothing. I will not take your so called analysis over the law. The law is clear. Without the due process of the law, you cannot be deprived of life, liberty, and property.

SCOTUS says you are wrong.

Under federal and state laws known as civil forfeiture, police can seize cash or property if they suspect it's tied to an illegal activity even if the property owner isn't charged with a crime. On its face, this practice seems like an obvious violation of the Fifth Amendment's stipulation that you can't "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." The Supreme Court has ruled otherwise. That court has issued a number of rulings upholding civil forfeiture, including one in 1996 that said seizure of an innocent person's property didn't violate due process. In that case, a Michigan woman named Tina Bennis fought the seizure of her car after her husband was caught having sex with a prostitute in it.

For her part, Bennis argued she had no clue her husband would use the car for the illegal tryst. The high court ruled that didn't matter, citing the following case law:

"It has long been settled that statutory forfeitures of property entrusted by the innocent owner or lienor to another who uses it in violation of the revenue laws of the United States is not a violation of the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment."

You can be completely innocent of any crime -- not even ACCUSED!-- and your property is still forfeit.

If you feel this is Constitutional, then you are a Statist copsucker.

68 posted on 06/08/2016 5:12:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Chuck Norris finally met his match in Donald Trump.)
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To: sagar; Lazamataz; trisham; All

” The law is clear. Without the due process of the law, you cannot be deprived of life, liberty, and property.”

You act as if “naive” is a virtue.

I have a friend Avi, who used to deal in the buying and selling of classic and exotic cars. That business is CASH ONLY. A cop pulled him over for speeding and next thing you know, he was relieved of $96,000 in cash. He could easily prove where the money came from, they didn’t give a $hit! After he hired a lawyer, the cops offered to settle for 1/2 the money.If he did wrong, why let go of half the money ? DUH !! He went to the press, and it scared the crooked cops into releasing all the money. I have other similar stories, but I picked the most egregious one to make the point.


83 posted on 06/09/2016 8:24:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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