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Donald Trump on education: Wrong, wrong and wrong
Washington Post ^ | May 8, 2016 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 05/08/2016 12:37:51 PM PDT by Innovative

Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, doesn’t talk all that much about education issues, but when he does, it is usually about the Common Core, rankings and spending. And usually he is wrong, wrong and wrong.

In one Trump ad this year, he hit all three in just a few sentences:

“I’m a tremendous believer in education. But education has to be at a local level. We cannot have the bureaucrats in Washington telling you how to manage your child’s education. So Common Core is a total disaster. We can’t let it continue. We are rated 28th in the world, the United States. Think of it, 28th in the world. And, frankly, we spend far more per pupil than any other country in the world. By far. It’s not even a close second.”

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To: Hugin

I have and idea!

Vouchers. Tax credits. Charters and the full ability to designate where you want your education dollars to go.

You get to send your tax dollars to your Marxist-run government indoctrination center ( oops! “school”). I get to send my tax dollars to a conservative organization that funds conservative schools through scholarships.


61 posted on 05/08/2016 4:13:22 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: itsahoot
Yep!

Sports drive a lot of what goes on in school policy. In my county there is one high school. Kids are on a bus for 3 hours a day ( 1.5 hours each way) just so the football team can have 3,000 kids to choose a team.

62 posted on 05/08/2016 4:16:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: wintertime

I’m all for vouchers and charter schools.

In the real world today there are two ways to get your kids into better schools. You can spend tens of thousands of dollars to send your kids to private schools, or you can move to an area with better public schools, which means higher rent or mortgage. Those who buy a house in a better area not only get a better education for their kids, but a better quality of life in general, and end up with a house that is worth more, which helps their family accumulate wealth. Since they are paying for schools anyway, that makes a lot of sense. People who make that choice shouldn’t be denigrated as not caring about the quality of their kids education.


63 posted on 05/08/2016 4:29:33 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

I expect people to get offended when I mention public education.
I know parents who make less than $20k/year and don’t take welfare, yet they manage to homeschool successfully. They don’t wait for pie in the sky or the fed gov to get out of education.
Public education is welfare, and it’s full of progressive trash. People who wouldn’t hire a government worker to babysit for an hour, and track in a progressive agenda (anti-Christian, pro-gay, pro-choice), will let the very same vermin babysit for six hours a day, 900 hours a year, because they’ve “already paid for it.” They can make all the excuses they can, but it’s welfare and the children are receiving a trashy education.
It’s just a fact beyond dispute. So, they can only sputter and cuss.


64 posted on 05/08/2016 4:40:34 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
The marvelous American education was born with the country and lasted only until the ultra liberals took control and destroyed it.

The education requirements began to go down not long after WW II. I was in High school around 53 or 54 when they began removing higher math courses as a requirement. I remember thinking at the time that maybe there should be some minimum requirements for graduation across all states, then I had to consider who would be deciding on those minimums and thought better of that idea.

Remember Reagan ran on two very big items, abolish 55 mph speed limit and abolish the Department of Education. He only got one, maybe Trump can get the other, but don't hold your breath.

65 posted on 05/08/2016 4:44:21 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: Innovative

If our current government has education so right, why do Obama and all members of our government send their own kids to private schools?

We should require that all public employees send their own children to public schools.


66 posted on 05/08/2016 4:48:53 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: A_perfect_lady
Who the hell is raising these bovinely obtuse young louts?

This may come as a shock nut you and your colleagues are.

67 posted on 05/08/2016 4:49:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: wintertime
so the football team can have 3,000 kids to choose a team.

Oklahoma or Texas?

68 posted on 05/08/2016 4:53:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: Innovative

Communist Core should be ended, the Federal Department of Education disbanded, and the Lyndon Baines Johnson building housing it bulldozed and made into a dungheap.


69 posted on 05/08/2016 5:06:38 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Bon mots
We should require that all public employees send their own children to public schools.

"Sins of the fathers" should not be on the heads of the children. But I have to admit it's tempting! ;)

70 posted on 05/08/2016 5:13:07 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: itsahoot

You may be right. We apparently are left to raise them because their parents just feed them, clothe them, and hand over their pay checks to them.


71 posted on 05/08/2016 5:31:12 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Innovative

Of course commiepuke globalists don’t want education locally controlled. Duh.


72 posted on 05/08/2016 6:05:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Hugin

People who make that choice shouldn’t be denigrated as not caring about the quality of their kid
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I denigrate the parents who subject their children to the following:

1) These parents are choosing to put their children into the care of Marxist-trained trained teachers from Marxist-run colleges of education. They are also subjecting their children a Marxist driven curriculum and policies.

2) Worse of all is the spiritual damage done to the children. **ALL** government schools in this nation are godless in their worldview. If they are not they are breaking the law. The children in godless classrooms **WILL** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must simply to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it possibly be otherwise.

3) If their Christian teachers who attempt to sneak in a God-centered worldview into the godless classroom, the children risk learning that Christians are sneaky, break the law, and so wimpy they are afraid to boldly proclaim their faith. So?....As a adults are these children likely to be attracted to a faith whose members are sneaky, wimpy, and law-breaking?

4) Finally, ....when children attend socialist entitlement schools they risk learning to be comfortable with socialism. Gee! If the voting mob can force others to pay for their tuition-free schooling, why not use that same voting mob to get **lots** of “free” stuff.

None of the above is good. Parents who subject their children to the above should be shamed. This is true if the school has good scores, bad scores, or ugly scores.


73 posted on 05/08/2016 6:14:41 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: SamAdams76

Yep.

Trump against Common Core? Check.

Referring to people such as Elizabeth Warren as a lying fraud instead of “my esteemed colleague? Check.

Wants to make Mexico pay for a fence? Check.

Washington Post, New York Times, Sacramento Bee, Seattle Post Intelligencer all think he is dangerous and ill informed? Check.

Euroweenies are terrified of him? Check.

Republicans are scared of him? Check.

And so on.

Seems like every day


74 posted on 05/08/2016 7:51:14 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Bon mots

My great niece is going to a private Catholic girls school next year. Her mother is a public school teacher. Her grandmother is a public school superintendent.

A lot of public school teachers send their kids to private school.


75 posted on 05/09/2016 11:17:38 AM PDT by goldi
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To: Innovative

Just another liberal writer for the ultra liberal WaPo.
Looks like your average Hillary supporter to me.


76 posted on 05/10/2016 10:41:56 AM PDT by teletech
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To: Innovative

Any entity supporting Common Core excludes itself from consideration due to unmeasurable stupidity.


77 posted on 06/15/2016 6:55:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Innovative

So sayeth the collection O’clowns that push Common Corpse (nope, not misspelled).

MSM, for those lucky enough to find employment given their box top degrees and laughable education.


78 posted on 07/12/2016 4:15:13 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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