NFL Coach Sean Payton: ‘I Hate Guns,’ It’s ‘Madness’ We’re ‘Hanging Onto’(stick to fball coach)

newsbusters.org ^ | 4/11/2016 | Dylan Gwinn

[gusty]

The one thing you learn when you have been involved with sports at a high level is that a vast majority of coaches, managers, etc are full of s**t. They will write books, probably ghost written, about teamwork, leadership, responsibility, you've heard the whole list. But every time when presented the opportunity to really practice what they preach, they drop the ball every time. And here we have another phony, Sean Payton, evading his sports and maybe himself’s own responsibility for this incident. Instead this jerk blames an inanimate object, and wants to take away my rights to cover for his own failures. What failures you may be asking. For decades these coaches have been encouraging their players or at minimum putting their head in the sand, in regards to steroid use. Guys like Payton cared more about winning meaningless games than unleashing some of these roided up monsters on the general public. So two of these roided behemoths, courtesy of coaches like Payton, square off in the street over a fender bender. Both parties erupt in a roid rage and one of them ends up dead. Who does Payton blame, himself for being part of the problem, hell no. He blames you and me, who just want to exercise our Constitutional Rights.

[Frederick303]

Yes I am.

[aresmars]

most violent crimes are within the same race(i.e. white on white..black on black etc) but for you to suggest that whites have never killed blacks is ridicules..lynchings? more recently the white supremacist(who was put to death) that tied a black man to a truck and dragged him..the white teens that ran over a man in Mississippi..it may not be a frequent as black on white crime, but to say white on black crime never happens is ridicules.

[aresmars]

I am assuming you’re excluding the past with the Lynchings, Cross burning etc.

most violent crime is between the races..i.e. white on white , black on black etc..

in 2013 they had 3005 murders of white people, 2509 were committed by whites..409 by blacks..

[NorthMountain]

Nice rifle; no more cheap surplus ammo.

[wardaddy]

You are going to have to bring your best game to race bait here dear

[Eagles6]

I was using a literary device which apparently was lost on you.

Let's keep this conversation in the time frame of, oh, let's say the last decade, heck even the last 40 yrs.

According to the FBI stats the rate of violence perpetrated by blacks against Whites is astronomically disproportionate to the inverse.

BTW, 2007 was the last time the DOJ released statistics breaking down assailant / victim by race. Gee, in 2008 what happened?

At that time 90% of interracial violence was black on White and I can imagine that it's gone up quite a bit since then.

Blacks being murdered by Whites is very rare and many of those cases classified as homocides were deemed justified use of force as in the Brown and Martin cases while a Cracker is murdered by a brutha about every 16 hrs.

Truly a man bites dog scenario.

We won't even go into the rape and assault stats which are more astounding.

BTW, the word that you want is ridiculous not ridicules.

[Eagles6]

Oh, and I never suggested that whites have never killed blacks.

[Stentor]

That would be he! “Bounty” Payton, distraught over the loss of a player, fumbles the ball. Couldn't even quote the p_resident accurately. SHEESH!

Off topic: I was sitting in a movie theater in 1964 when Keenan Wynn introduced himself. I was the only one in the theater that laughed. I went to Catholic school before college and the nuns had us study the chief exports of every country in the world.

[rlmorel]

BFL

[rlmorel]

I have posted this before, so I apologize if you may have already seen it, but it is derived from Bill Whittle's excellent video on this subject.

As indicated below, these statistics are taken from the National Crime Victimization Survey (the branch of the DOJ responsible for collecting these statistics)

People in this country may ask: "Is there an epidemic of racial violence in this country?"

The answer to this question may be found in Bill Whittle's excellent video: VIDEO: Bill Whittle: Ferguson and the Real Race War

In summary, here are the raw statistics for general violent crime Black-on-White and White-on-Black crime from the National Crime Victimization Survey (the branch of the DOJ responsible for collecting these statistics) here are the raw results for 2010:

Here is the RAW disparity between Black-on-White and White-on-Black general violent crime:

But this raw data is misleading, due to disparity in the sizes of the population. Here are the numbers that show the population totals for black and white populations in 2010:

If you normalize the statistics to take into account the relative sizes of the populations, Here are the numbers that reflect the real magnitude of Black-on-White versus White-on-Black VIOLENT ASSAULT crime:

Furthermore, if you narrow the statistics shown above on violent assault (GENERAL VIOLENT ASSAULT) to a specific type of violent assault (IN THE CASE BELOW, VIOLENT AGGRAVATED ASSAULT) , the statistics that Black-on-White versus White-on-Black VIOLENT ASSAULT crime take on an entirely different magnitude:

When one looks at these statistics, one can only reach the same conclusion that Bill Whittle did in his video:
"Oh, there's an epidemic of racial violence in America, all right."

Bill Whittle further accurately states:
"Critics will say that I am using these statistics to justify the murder of Michael Brown. But I said at the beginning – if Michael Brown were shot in cold blood then the police officer needs to pay the price for murder. This has nothing to do with Michael Brown. This has EVERYTHING to do with the narrative that the President, the Attorney General, and all of these race hustlers are trying to create using Michael Brown.

There is, in fact, a racial war of violence and hatred in America. Open racism is simply not tolerated in white America today, but black racism is the toxic glue that holds the progressive coalition together. Tolerance of – in fact, as we see from the events in Ferguson, open encouragement of black rage at a narrative that not only does not exist but reverses the daily outrages that do exist, is what defines modern progressivism. It is the politics of envy, anger, entitlement, lawlessness, violence and bald-faced lies.

And of all the promises broken by this man, surely none is more heartbreaking than the one promise that got him elected in the first place: the promise of a post-racial future. He and his racist progressive cohorts can never surrender the weapon that has gotten them everything, not the least of which is personal political power and trillions of dollars of redistributed wealth. And this latest outrage in Furguson is yet another example – as if another was needed among the economic wreckage, creeping totalitarianism, and foreign-policy disasters -- that he and his leftist cohorts would rather rule over ruins than disappear into the dustbin of a healthy and healed nation."

(All statistics, graphs and quotes from Bill Whittle's "Ferguson and the Real Race War")

[rlmorel]

That said, I have nothing in particular against the NO Saints, but I have lost any respect I had for Sean Payton.

Blaming the piece of metal, not the perp. He isn’t any conservative, no matter how much he pontificates about being to the right on any issue whatsoever.

The right to keep and bear arms should be involate, but we see it clearly isn’t to many Americans.

[rlmorel]

Here is the sentiment that most of us are angry about (apart from someone like him telling the rest of us our constitutional rights are meaningless):

Bill Whittle: "It's The Steel"

It is a complete liberal mindset to blame the gun.

[Trump-a-licious]

Coach is stupid, a violent person will find a way to be violent, not the guns fault.

[wardaddy]

Thanks for the ping

My first impulse was to look up that poster

Then I saw you had already done that

Nicely done

[rlmorel]

As John Adams once said...”Facts are stubborn things.”

And that is the truth.

[dfwgator]

And I hate coaches that put bounties on opposing players.

[SunkenCiv]

Will Smith rear-ended accused killer, had loaded gun in his car
http://nypost.com/2016/04/12/video-shows-will-smith-rear-ended-his-accused-killer/

[aresmars]

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

Looking through the fbi stats it’s funny how i don’t see any zeroes by the white section..

Where did I say blacks are never criminals? My argument was that this myth that whites don’t commit crimes. Also most mass-killers,serial-killers and child rapist are white..

[rlmorel]

You took issue with wardaddy's statement which is basically correct when you look at the statistics from the government that I posted. You made three separate statements:

"...I am assuming you’re excluding the past with the Lynchings, Cross burning etc..."
Why do you assume that, and why do you even bring it up, except to perhaps imply racist motives to his post? When was the last lynching in this country? People like you seem bound and determined to keep it forefront in the national consciousness, which puts you in the same league as a lot of people who stand to gain from racial hatred and tension, people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric Holder, and nearly the entire Democratic Party including Barack Obama. And, probably you as well.

"...Most violent crime is between the races..i.e. white on white , black on black etc..."
What does that have to do with the subject at hand? You don't see anything unusual with normalized statistics that show that black-on-white violence is wildly out of proportion to white-on-black violence
by a factor of 200-1?

"...in 2013 they had 3005 murders of white people, 2509 were committed by whites..409 by blacks..."
What on earth does that statistic mean? It has no context, no relevance to the discussion. It is totally irrelevant because it has no context. Below are the 2013 statistics from the Justice Department. THIS has meaning. This is what you should have posted, but it wouldn't fit whatever agenda you have: