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IBM to erase 14,000 people from the payroll – Wall St analyst
The Register ^ | 10 Mar 2016 at 16:05 | Paul Kunert

Posted on 03/12/2016 6:45:37 AM PST by snarkpup

Jobs to be bundled on a plane and flown to lower labour cost countries

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He highlighted a $1bn Japanese tax gain Big Blue has received, and pointed out that in the past the company had matched the proceeds from dispositions or IP sales with workforce restructuring expense.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freetrade; ibm; layoffs; offshoring; outsourcing
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And a new phrase-for-the-day: "non-strategic skills."
1 posted on 03/12/2016 6:45:37 AM PST by snarkpup
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To: snarkpup

America has the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world...


2 posted on 03/12/2016 6:47:31 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: snarkpup

Also with TPP (Obamatrade) China will destroy all U.S. factories and U.S. industry in the next few years.

Only Trump will stop TPP and China


3 posted on 03/12/2016 6:48:28 AM PST by Democrat_media (ONLY Trump will build the wall that will stop the illegals invasion of the USA!)
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We really need Cruz’s VAT tax....


4 posted on 03/12/2016 6:48:38 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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America has the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world...

What does that have to do with this decision?

5 posted on 03/12/2016 6:49:52 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: snarkpup

They were “deleted”


6 posted on 03/12/2016 6:50:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Also with TPP (Obamatrade) China will destroy all U.S. factories and U.S. industry in the next few years.

What does that have to do with this decision? And what has Trump, or any other candidate, proposed that would stop this?

7 posted on 03/12/2016 6:51:06 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Not to mention the high costs of ODoesntCare and the myriad of regulations it takes to run a business here.


8 posted on 03/12/2016 6:51:20 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: DoodleDawg

Might have factored into bringing it about or making it worse.

You’re the second chap today who seems oblivious that waste is a harmful thing.


9 posted on 03/12/2016 6:51:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2banana

“America has the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world...”

Therefore any tax relief should be contingent on no more offshoring of jobs.


10 posted on 03/12/2016 6:52:18 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Just mythoughts
We really need Cruz’s VAT tax

The purpose of a VAT tax, as opposed to an ordinary national sales tax, is to hide the tax inside the cost of goods so that the public blames evil companies for raising their prices instead of the government raising taxes.

11 posted on 03/12/2016 6:54:31 AM PST by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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Few people care until it’s their job. It’s a uniquely American trait.


12 posted on 03/12/2016 6:55:30 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: DoodleDawg
China and other countries doing massive currency manipulations amounts to an effective tariffs on U.S. products. Result is the wholesale destruction of U.S. industries, off-shoring of U.S. jobs, technology moving to China. Trump's been saying this since the 1980’s when Japan was doing to the U.S.A.

No one else is even talking about this. Trump has for decades. Read his books and get a clue.

13 posted on 03/12/2016 6:56:44 AM PST by Democrat_media (ONLY Trump will build the wall that will stop the illegals invasion of the USA!)
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To: snarkpup
The purpose of a VAT tax, as opposed to an ordinary national sales tax, is to hide the tax inside the cost of goods so that the public blames evil companies for raising their prices instead of the government raising taxes.

Yes, I know... I did not think I needed to add a sarcasm tag... It is beyond my ability to comprehend how a VAT tax is considered conservative in any way, shape, fashion, or form... But Ted Cruz advocates a VAT tax. And some people stupidly call him conservative.

14 posted on 03/12/2016 6:58:25 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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China and other countries doing massive currency manipulations amounts to an effective tariff on U.S. products. Result is the wholesale destruction of U.S. industries, off-shoring of U.S. jobs, technology moving to China, U.S. factories moving to China. Trump's been saying this since the 1980’s when Japan was doing it to the U.S.A.

No one else is even talking about this. Trump has for decades. Trump is right when he says we've rebuilt China. Read his books and get a clue.

15 posted on 03/12/2016 6:59:21 AM PST by Democrat_media (ONLY Trump will build the wall that will stop the illegals invasion of the USA!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Might have factored into bringing it about or making it worse.

How? If IBM signs a contract with XYZ company to outsource their IT for $1 million per year and it costs IBM $600,000 per year using U.S. resources to provide those services then that means IBM has a taxable profit of $400,000. Say, for the sake of argument, that the tax rate is 25% and IBM clears $300,000. If IBM ships the work overseas and it costs them $300,000 for the same work then they realize $700,000 from the contract. After taxes they realize $525,000 in profits. So where do taxes factor in? If the tax rate was lowered to 10% do you expect IBM to say "Now we can afford U.S. workers?" Or would you expect them to say "Cha-ching!" and leave the work offshore?

You’re the second chap today who seems oblivious that waste is a harmful thing.

I'm not sure I'm the oblivious one.

16 posted on 03/12/2016 7:01:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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I.e. you see no point in easing up on things that have sent IBM offshore?

That sounds like self defeating punitiveness.

We might as well ask why wasn’t America “cha-ching” from the beginning?

Maybe there was an inborn ethical impulse to the contrary?

You appear to be the oblivious one.


17 posted on 03/12/2016 7:05:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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No one else is even talking about this. Trump has for decades. Read his books and get a clue.

So what's the solution? Flood the world with dollars and drive our currency down?

18 posted on 03/12/2016 7:05:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Your analogy would make sense except that IBM has competitors.


19 posted on 03/12/2016 7:06:03 AM PST by shelterguy
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China and other countries doing massive currency manipulations amounts to an effective tariffs on U.S. products.

The U.S. does this, too. The U.S. dollar was in the sh!tter compared to most global currencies for more than a decade -- and it was all the result of the U.S. government printing money and underwriting loans to itself.

The only difference now is that a U.S. government bond that pays a 2% interest rate is a much better deal for investors than a Chinese bond that pays a 20% rate ... because the Chinese issue bonds in a currency that is basically worthless.

20 posted on 03/12/2016 7:07:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Bye bye, William Frawley!)
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