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LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting
OregonLive ^ | 3/8/2016 | Carli Brousseau

Posted on 03/09/2016 4:58:26 AM PST by Nextrush

It came as no surprise that supporters of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and the other occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that law enforcement officials determined that his fatal shooting was justified.....

In the words of the Twitter feed maintained by the family of patriot movement icon and Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, whose son Ammon spearheaded the Oregon occupation: "Government terrorists have investigated themselves and found that they did nothing wrong."

The investigation by the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office revealed that Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back after he reached three times for a loaded handgun in his left jacket pocket, officials said during a news conference Tuesday in Bend.

"In general, I don't think Finicum supporters or many of us out here are going to accept this investigation as conclusive," said Stewart Rhodes, president of Oath Keepers, one of the most prominent groups of the patriot movement......

"The family needs to assemble its own independent investigatory team and be able to assess the full evidence," Rhodes said. He called for law enforcement to make public audio of radio communications, among other related documentation.

Finicum's widow, Jeanette Finicum, released a statement shortly after the news conference concluded.

"No surprises," the statement said of the investigation's findings. "The purpose of that announcement was for state and federal agencies to continue to lay the foundation for their legal case."

She said her attorney "has assured me that we will seek justice in a different court, under different circumstances."

Officials revealed for the first time at the news conference that Oregon State Police troopers apparently were not the only ones to shoot during the confrontation where most of the occupation's leaders were arrested and Finicum was killed.

An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice... .

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


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The FBI Hostage Rescue Team did fire live rounds at the truck LaVoy was driving with one of them causing the windshield to shatter.

They didn't just use the 'flashbangs'.

Victoria Sharp was right when she said she was being shot out while in the vehicle.

The Justice Department (ha...ha....) is investigating the agent who fired the shots and lied afterwards along with four other agents who apparently helped the lying shooter.

The Oregon authorities are also holding back on releasing the rest of the video evidence etc. in the case along with the name of the two OSP troopers who shot at Finicum and killed him.

1 posted on 03/09/2016 4:58:26 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

But we have LIVE witnesses.
There is more ‘tape’ out there, too.

Too bad. Murder DOES ‘out’, ya know.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 5:08:06 AM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left us.)
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To: Nextrush
LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting

Sort of like my ex. She's never at fault for anything. Don't believe it? Just ask her! It's all me, all the time!

3 posted on 03/09/2016 5:08:29 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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LaVoy favored a shoulder rig and had a jacket on. How could someone who shot him in the back tell what he was reaching for?


4 posted on 03/09/2016 5:10:30 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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So even the FBI realizes that there was an issue with one of their agents and that the story about “violence prone” rebels is falling apart...


5 posted on 03/09/2016 5:16:38 AM PST by mdmathis6
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How could someone who shot him in the back tell what he was reaching for?

What is missing is the audio. What I want to know is what verbal commands were being given to him. He gets out, hands up, then relatively slowly (not an attempt at a quick draw) reaches towards his jacket, then stops and puts his hands up, then reaches again...

I'm thinking he was being given conflicting verbal commands. But I would never trust any of the LEOs present to accurately relate what happened. We already know they have lied about it. Their integrity was shattered by the first lie.

6 posted on 03/09/2016 5:23:40 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back

They shot him ... in the back ... three times ...

That's all I need to know.


7 posted on 03/09/2016 5:26:12 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

https://youtu.be/Nw9sfuFGghY


8 posted on 03/09/2016 5:35:22 AM PST by knarf
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To: Nextrush; LucyT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3406843/posts?page=76#76

See #76 by lucyt

Autopsy lists cause of death as “homicide”.

Also says wounds from back.


9 posted on 03/09/2016 5:42:54 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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There is audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw9sfuFGghY


10 posted on 03/09/2016 5:43:03 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Nextrush

The replies at Oregon Live make me sick. They are not my countrymen.

If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams


11 posted on 03/09/2016 5:44:47 AM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Nextrush

Video from inside the truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY


12 posted on 03/09/2016 5:48:08 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Autopsy lists cause of death as “homicide”.

Michael Brown's autopsy listed cause of death as "homicide" as well. Are you saying there is something suspicious in that shooting too?

13 posted on 03/09/2016 5:51:43 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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For what its worth the kill shot was thru the back which pierced his heart.


14 posted on 03/09/2016 5:58:26 AM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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For what its worth the kill shot was thru the back which pierced his heart.

Would it make it all better if the kill shot was through the front?

15 posted on 03/09/2016 6:10:47 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Nextrush

Bundy Ranch Round-up,
continues.


16 posted on 03/09/2016 6:34:37 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: DoodleDawg; LucyT

See autopsy at this post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3406843/posts?page=76#76

Says cause of death homicide.


17 posted on 03/09/2016 6:40:47 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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Says cause of death homicide.

So did Michael Brown's autopsy. So did Tamir Rice's autopsy. Were those murders as well?

18 posted on 03/09/2016 6:45:20 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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From what I understand, the “homicide” designation merely means that the death was caused by a human; it’s not the same as “murder.”


19 posted on 03/09/2016 6:53:27 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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From what I understand, the “homicide” designation merely means that the death was caused by a human; it’s not the same as “murder.”

I know. An autopsy finds cause of death and whether it was criminal or not. The fact that Finicum's cause of death was listed as homicide is irrelevant.

20 posted on 03/09/2016 6:56:03 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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