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Limbaugh Spreads Free Trade Myths on Air.
Rush Limbaugh Show | 3/2/16 | Me

Posted on 03/02/2016 12:29:52 PM PST by central_va

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To: LS
Agreed! What is really unfortunate, are the closed minds of certain business groups, who parrot basic economic reality, with which we probably agree, but refuse to even consider the equally important--maybe more important--social dynamics involved.

Half reality has never worked in human history. Though Taboos are not a formula for human progress.

61 posted on 03/02/2016 12:56:12 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
What would that add into the labor costs if they were produced here?

Every part would cost marginally more, perhaps 10% more. iPhones would be more expensive if made in the USA. But only marginally so. Maybe 10% more. I'd say that would be worth it to employ 500,000 US citizens and get them off of the dole.

62 posted on 03/02/2016 12:56:27 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TTFlyer
Yo win the prize for best post.


63 posted on 03/02/2016 12:58:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Labor per iPhone is almost the smallest cost item per phone that there is.

Then why should anyone care if they are made in China or Thailand?

64 posted on 03/02/2016 12:59:35 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: cymbeline

Within five years the world will be awash in encryption that the FBI can’t break. Much of it originating from places far beyond their jurisdiction. Their case against Apple is a futile rear-guard action.


65 posted on 03/02/2016 12:59:40 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: central_va
I've been disappointed in Rush lately. Sometimes had to turn off.
66 posted on 03/02/2016 12:59:40 PM PST by Logical me
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To: wbarmy
Do you really think they could hire people in Detroit who could operate on the assembly line?

Maybe not Detroit but 100 different places in the USA.

67 posted on 03/02/2016 1:00:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Apple has sold about 600 million IPhones worldwide.

$100 x 600,000,000 = $60 BILLION in lost revenue to Apple, or lost wages to your US workers.

Which one is the Apple board going to choose?


68 posted on 03/02/2016 1:00:29 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: central_va
Respectfully, you sound like an idiot. A complete idiot. Total idiot with no understanding of manufacturing. 30 man-hours to make a car? How many man hours to make the steel. The plastic. all the components.

Show me the man hours necessary to make an iPhone and all of its component parts.

69 posted on 03/02/2016 1:00:59 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If Trump wins Rush retires.


70 posted on 03/02/2016 1:01:05 PM PST by TTFlyer
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To: qman

Rush has stated flatly that he doesn’t endorse candidates in the primaries.


71 posted on 03/02/2016 1:01:18 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: sparklite2

The modern definition of free trade is “no tariffs”. The founding fathers had a different definition of free trade. To them, free trade meant the freedom for US merchants to trade with any nation or company. At the time of the American Revolution the British government restricted colonial merchant from trading outside the British empire and forced them to deal with royally sanctioned merchants instead of going direct.

Free trade in the late 1700’s had nothing to do with tariff and tax policies. In fact the US government pursued high tariff policies into the 20th century in order to protect the developing US manufacturing industry from more efficient European producers as well as to generate enough tariff and duty revenue to fully fund the federal government. While today’s free market advocates claim tariffs are an impediment to economic growth, the US experienced the highest economic growth rates in its history during the 19th and 20th centuries when tariffs were at historically high levels. During that period US merchants extended their reach globally using their famous Yankee clipper ships to transport goods freely around the world.

During the high tariff era the US became the world’s greatest industrial power and developed a large middle class. Economic growth rates were much higher than during the modern era. Contrast with today where 25 years of no tariffs free trade policies have coincided with stalled economic growth, loss of much of the industrial infrastructure that took 150 years to develop, and declining average household incomes for the first time in US history.

Where are the economic analyses with hard data showing the modern trade agreements have benefited the average American household and the US economy? There aren’t any.


72 posted on 03/02/2016 1:01:22 PM PST by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Then why should anyone care if they are made in China or Thailand?

I want my fellow Americans working and not rioting and taking drugs. That's why.

73 posted on 03/02/2016 1:01:54 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sparklite2

the benefits of FREE trade have been manifest on the globe for the last 3 centuries. You are correct - anyone calling for government management is calling for crony-capitalist, corrupt, insider economic rent-seeking.

We need to point out - our present US government DISCOURAGES hiring within the USA by making US labor excessively expensive. There are hundreds of examples, but just look at Obamacare as one example. Do you want to grow beyond 50 employees - well, if you do, you now need to provide expensive, Obama-crony health care to all your employees. Add on regulations of all kinds, OSHA, tort law corruption, welfare - and you encourage Americans NOT to work and American companies NOT to hire.


74 posted on 03/02/2016 1:02:02 PM PST by PGR88
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To: central_va

Socialist can’t stand Rush.


75 posted on 03/02/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by Reaganez
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To: TTFlyer

When Rush described the factory compounds in China, with 500,000 workers who live on those compounds, who have hospitals right there, it made me think of slave plantations. Those buildings in China have nets on the windows, called “suicide nets” because the workers become so desperate. All this so Rush can have a $200 iphone. I’m trying to wrap my mind around it.


76 posted on 03/02/2016 1:02:26 PM PST by georgiegirl
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To: central_va

So you are saying labor in the US is NOT more expensive than china?


77 posted on 03/02/2016 1:03:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: central_va

So you want the government to tell Apple they have to make every component and the final product on the US?


78 posted on 03/02/2016 1:03:41 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: central_va
I want my fellow Americans working and not rioting and taking drugs.

So why don't you open a factory?

Give these addicts and rioters some hope.

79 posted on 03/02/2016 1:03:54 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: central_va
I want my fellow Americans working and not rioting and taking drugs. That's why.

If you want americans to work, then stop providing government incentives NOT to work, and government rules and regulations that discourage companies from hiring locally. Everything from welfare, 99 weeks unemployment to Obamacare to minimum wage laws ALL raise the real cost of American labor FAR beyond what the worker actually gets in their paycheck.

80 posted on 03/02/2016 1:04:38 PM PST by PGR88
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