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Limbaugh Spreads Free Trade Myths on Air.
Rush Limbaugh Show | 3/2/16 | Me

Posted on 03/02/2016 12:29:52 PM PST by central_va

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To: central_va

Here is what I thought-—and I don’t doubt that phones are built for a fraction there of what they could be built here-—but IMAGINE if you moved that factory to, say, Detroit. It would be overnight the largest factory in the city AND would nearly double the size of Detroit.

Trump’s question is why aren’t we building these factories here? Of course they would cost “some” more? But that much more?

I used to be a 100% free trader. But trade isn’t “free” if you are selling soup and China is selling soup, but China won’t let you sell your soup on Chinese shelves. True free trade is products must compete in all circumstances.


21 posted on 03/02/2016 12:39:19 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: sparklite2

No, not necessarily. I advocate true free trade. Any product, available to be traded in a competitive mode. But if your government restricts me from selling in your country, that isn’t free trade.


22 posted on 03/02/2016 12:40:16 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: G Larry

Well it must really irritate you that the USA was founded on the idea of protectionism.


23 posted on 03/02/2016 12:40:16 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Why would they need much labor anyway? Can’t robots replace most menial tasks?


24 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:00 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: central_va

Rush is right. For the price points to be meant many many things are made in China. Labor is too expensive over here.


25 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:04 PM PST by plain talk
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To: central_va

Where the hell do you buy a new iPhone for costing $190 dollars ?

No where.


26 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:14 PM PST by moehoward
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To: FatherofFive

Unless you’re the one making the robots.


27 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:17 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: central_va

Hey, at least he wasn’t going into detail about his battery charging problems. Snooze fest, Rusty.


28 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:35 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: central_va

Consumer electronics products are thoroughly torn-down and cost-analyzed, all this is well known in the industry. Here is a teardown analysis showing the BOM cost of an iPhone6 at $236:

http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/30/iphone-6s-plus-teardown-analysis/

Parts cost is nearly exactly the same no matter where in the world you build it. Almost all assembly is automated and the machines don’t care which country they are sitting in. The main reason so much stuff is built in China is that the electronics manufacturing services industry grew massively there back when labor cost WAS a factor, and now that’s where the factories happen to be.

Boston Consulting Group has been writing about “reshoring” for years, and it is happening with certain industries and the states which are most favorable to business benefiting the most.


29 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:44 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: central_va

Agree 100%.

It’s not free trade. It’s RIGGED TRADE.


30 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:47 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: central_va

I know people who build airplanes for the big name companies, and their starting wage is only 14.80 per hour!! And they have to produce at the same rate and quality as those who get paid $38.00/hr. So if a Chinese phone laborer is paid $12.50 per hour, he’s being paid much better than a LOT of people in the USA.

Unless a person is a professional..ie doctor, or CPA, big business owner, I don’t know anybody who earns $125/hr.


31 posted on 03/02/2016 12:41:58 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: central_va

I’m less concerned with the price than the principles involved. Why should Apple produce phones where it is less profitable. Unless they wish to be altruistic, why should they work for anyone’s benefit other than their own? Are you comfortable using the government to force people to work for the benefit of others?


32 posted on 03/02/2016 12:42:05 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Leaning Right

We need to increase the H-1B visa quota for talk show hosts!


33 posted on 03/02/2016 12:43:14 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I find Rush tiring as well but mostly because we won’t commit to a candidate!


34 posted on 03/02/2016 12:43:26 PM PST by qman
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To: moehoward

“Costing 190” means the cost of materials and labor. Price is what you and I pay.


35 posted on 03/02/2016 12:43:42 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: central_va

I don’t feel knowledgeable enough to comment on this subject as far as technical/economic issues are concerned; however, Limbaugh’s propagandizing in favor of Cruz in this primary cycle (mostly sins of omission; “damning by faint praise” and “spin”) has only reinforced my belief that Rush is not an honest broker.

I would not mind if he admitted he is in favor of Ted (who, I believe, is the most Conservative candidate); I merely believe it is dishonest for Rush to pretend he is less than biased on this issue. He’s still interesting to listen to; just know you’re only getting his editorialized view on any subject.


36 posted on 03/02/2016 12:43:43 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: central_va

” would guess the total man hours to make an iPhone is less that 2 man hours. Heck a mid size sedan only takes 30 man hours to make.

Asymco analyst Horace Dediu used the “Nightline” report to estimate that Apple pays labor costs of between $12.50 and $30 for every iPhone it makes, which represents just 2-5% of the iPhone’s sale price.”

That isn’t how labor costs are figured. You have to figure the cost of the whole labor force, not just the part working on the iphone.


37 posted on 03/02/2016 12:44:14 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: central_va

Listening to Rush talk about Apple is like listening to a teenage girl talk about whoever the male heartthrob of the moment is. No point, nothing other than fawning, gushing praise will be heard.


38 posted on 03/02/2016 12:44:38 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Politics: from the greek "poly" [many] and the english "ticks" [blood sucking parasites])
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To: central_va

They only include Apple’s labor costs.
All of Apple’s suppliers are also overseas.
What would that add into the labor costs if they were produced here?
Then add in our business regulation costs.


39 posted on 03/02/2016 12:44:40 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: central_va
I was against Apple on the encryption thing, but after studying the issue, I am on Apple's side. And Believe me, I was an Apple hater long before it came in vogue.
40 posted on 03/02/2016 12:44:40 PM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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