Posted on 03/02/2016 7:58:56 AM PST by Whenifhow
Ben Ginsberg, Republican attorney, explains the process that would be required for delegates at the Republican convention to select someone other than the party front-runner (Donald Trump).Duration: 7:20
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Ben Ginsberg just outlined the whole Establishment strategy to how they are going to expose the attempt to take down Trump for the nomination. Even MSNBC is wondering why Ginsberg just gave detail by detail, time frame and dates on what the Establishment will do. Watch Ginsberg’s appearances because he gave away the playbook.
Again, MSNBC hosts are shocked by how much Ginsberg divulged.
There were 2-3 segments.so this is the first segment. Please post if you find other segments.
Also watch them discussing Ginsbergs appearance after he left because they again were shocked by how much her revealed.
Then even asked Ginsberg how he could the Rinos be comfortable disenfranchising voters.
Ginsberg represented Bush back in 2000 and he rattled off everything as if he has been studying it for months. The Bush people appear to have a personal vendetta against Trump. They do not care about the voters. Ben Ginsberg is major league and it appears the RNC is already seeking legal counsel. The MSNBC panel was stunned by what he was disclosing both during and after the interview.
Ginsberg who could likely be the head of the RNC if they choose to attempt to deny Trump the nomination. He spilled way too much and has really studied up on a contested convention. It is obvious he would likely represent the RNC, i.e. Bush family by way of Romney if they choose to go that route.
How would it work?
After the Convention is suspended for four days, due to 1968-style rioting occurring outside the convention hall, they’d select some RINO candidate who would go down in flames in November.
Discussion is from Live thread beginning 2753 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3403791/posts?page=2753#2753
I don’t think this is designed to get rid of Trump so much as to pressure Trump to pick an establishment VP.
“I don’t think this is designed to get rid of Trump so much as to pressure Trump to pick an establishment VP.”
Remember, everything is “negotiable.”
Basically, with a brokered convention...probably over fifty percent of all Republicans would stay home in November...that means stay home for the President’s race, the Senator races, the House races, the local state positions, and city council races. I’m sure that the really smart pretender Republicans have considered this and realize that it’s not the 1960s and most people are not going to be insulted about this gimmick.
watch the video if you possibly can.
The idea is to go to get the state delegates. Delegates are chosen by state conventions.
On the first ballot, those delegates are bound to vote for the frontrunner.
If you were to devise a plan, you would have to go to the 50 state conventions (or 40)
This is what Ben Ginsberg did 4 years ago to prevent Ron Paul from using his delegates.
Please watch
If THEY steal it at the convention, burn the house down, maybe literally.
This is the new talking point by GOPe to threaten the voters to vote their way or else they will take it away.
I don’t think anybody of the donor and investment class realize that the voters feel they have nothing left to lose - a very dangerous place to be if you are GOPe.
Voters absolutely WILL throw out Congress and staties and destroy those careers. Count on it.
I didn’t get the same feel as you did. The MSNBC staff were trying to push Ginsberg into making statements he didn’t support. For example, Ginsberg said the strategy of using a brokered convention was a very, very long shot, the equivalent of a “triple bank shot”.
The process he “described” involved coordinating at the state level. Ginsberg admitted that this would be very difficult. Ginsberg stated that the state parties picked the delegates (only partially true). and that to be successful one would have to lobby each and every state party to pick delegates that would not support Trump.
Does anyone actually believe the “establishment”, which has proven that it is incapable of managing a church social, would be capable of managing fifty state campaigns to pick anti-trump delegates?
The only reason this ‘brokered convention’ horsehockey is receiving any publicity is the fact the media needs ‘click bait’ to attract interest.
BTW, I remember last election when the “really, really, conservative-conservatives” were all excited about using a brokered convention to stop Romney. The election before that, they were all excited about stopping McCain using a brokered convention. So which is it, are conservatives supposed to be for or against brokered conventions?
What happens with current delegates if presidential candidates drop out of race?
Can Rubio, Kasich, etc delegates be assigned to Cruz before the convention? Or vice versa?
If he spilled the beans, then a defense can be made, by Trump and others ...
Conservatives: I can't stand Romney and won't vote for him!
GOPe: He won fair and square, it's time to unify behind him.
GOPe: I can't stand Trump and won't vote for him! Well, nothing to do but get behind Clinton.
Good points on this; there is a lot of anger out there....
Who would be disenfranchised? A nominee is chosen by a majority of delegates at the convention, not a plurality. If Trump can’t win a majority of the delegate votes at the convention, then what would give him the right to be the nominee?
This is no different than saying that voters were “disenfranchised” in 2000 when Gore lost the election after “winning” a plurality of the popular vote.
Yes, there is a lot of ‘anger out there’. It would be helpful if people remembered that most of the media, including folks like Maddow who were on this clip, are not our friends. They are working quite purposefully to stoke that anger and split or suppress the republican/conservative vote.
Thank you, that was exactly what I’ve been looking for. I could listen to him for another hour, is all...
The primary process seems to be largely controlled by the parties, not federal election law even though people think they are actually voting in an official sense. And a cornered animal - or GOPe power structure - is dangerous.
The good news is, Trump’s people understand all this and more. And they now have Chris Christie in their camp and as part of the Romney campaign and as head of the Republican Governors Association, he knows all the dirty secrets and where the bodies are buried within the GOPe. He was part of their strategic planning in the past and now is committeed 100% to Trump, so he will be a great source of intelligence.
Are we in the Soviet Union now? The Party chooses our glorious candidate, the hell with the will of the voters!
The GOPe is playing a very dangerous game. Trump is the only one we know for certain will fight back.
Don’t the people have any say in who they want as President? or we just misled in thinking the choice is ours? It is not pick Col A or Col B - Col A is the same as Col B. Democracy my arse.
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