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The Apple-FBI Fight Isn’t About Privacy vs. Security. Don’t Be Misled (LINK ONLY Copyright)
Wired Magazine, LINK ONLY DUE TO COPYRIGHT RESTRICTION | February 24, 2016 | By BRIAN BARRETT

Posted on 02/24/2016 8:01:29 PM PST by Swordmaker

Wired article LINK ONLY due to copyright restriction argues that the issue is not just about privacy versus safety and security.

It makes the point that unlike what the FBI and DOJ are demanding, and the compromise their supporters are seeking, a back door into devices, that for the computer and mobile device security side to really work, it has to be absolute or it isn't security at all.

The Apple-FBI Fight Isn't About Privacy vs. Security. Don't Be Misled (LINK ONLY Due to Copyright limitations)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; applepinglist; fbi; iphone; privacy; security
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1 posted on 02/24/2016 8:01:29 PM PST by Swordmaker
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2 posted on 02/24/2016 8:02:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contIinue....)
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3 posted on 02/24/2016 8:05:39 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Swordmaker

The 4th amendment pierced “for this one phone” imperials all forms of communication and dilutes the 1st amendment.

Sieg Heil...


4 posted on 02/24/2016 8:17:03 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Swordmaker
Good article, thank you for posting it.

It makes the important point that this is not a case of balancing privacy and security. Giving the FBI what it wants will decrease both privacy and security.

5 posted on 02/24/2016 8:19:55 PM PST by Persephone Kore
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To: Swordmaker

I guess every terrorist has been put on notice they can use Apple devices to coordinate terrorist acts internationally? Obviously there’s a privacy issue, but Apple is obfuscating to put it bluntly — all to earn more (tax-free) profits worldwide including China. No, the FBI doesn’t need to have a tool to crack every password, but when Apple is presented a court order in a specific criminal case then Apple should crack the password and pass over the results to the FBI without obstacle. Since Apple or no one else can rely on the Chinese court system to protect human rights, then Apple China should either refuse to collaborate or get out of there.


6 posted on 02/24/2016 8:27:10 PM PST by Carismar
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Terrorists shouldn’t have rights to privacy.

Apple can unlock the phone and give it back to the FBI.

But they won’t do it. Apple wants terrorists and killers to have privacy. I would gladly relieve myself on Apple.


7 posted on 02/24/2016 8:29:03 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Swordmaker

The best information I saw about this issue .. it’s right there on www.rushlimbaugh.com .. he explains that the employer of the terrorists had control and ownership over the cell phone. It was up to them to know how to control the use of the phone.

If they had hired a competent IT professional, they would have been able to control the data on the phone. However, because they did not take care of business, now the employer has a problem and they want Apple to put their company’s proprietary info out there for the world to see, in order for the lazy employer to get control over whatever data may be on that phone.

I’m with Apple. If the proper tasks had been completed on the phone, the employer would have been able to capture all the data on the phone, they could have changed the password themselves. Therefore, why should Apple have to expose themselves to hackers .. because the employer was too lazy to take care of his equipment.

You all should read the front of Rush’s website .. it’s right there for everybody to see.


8 posted on 02/24/2016 8:31:06 PM PST by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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It’s not the P.R. angle that’s so damaging. For a different take see “Apple vs. FBI vs. Spy vs. Spy”:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/apple-vs-fbi-vs-spy-vs-spy/

Comments are interesting also.


9 posted on 02/24/2016 8:35:28 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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Apple doesn’t have to expose any of their software to anyone. They could take the phone for a day, unlock it, and give it back. Simple as that.

Honestly the terrorists should not be able to expect privacy. Now terrorists will buy apple products in droves because they know the apple traitors won’t turn on them.


10 posted on 02/24/2016 8:36:13 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: CyberAnt

But the employer dropped the ball and didn’t preserve evidence. So it’s Apple’s duty to cooperate with court orders while addressing the privacy issue by keeping secure the in-house backdoor tool which they already undoubtedly have.


11 posted on 02/24/2016 8:39:34 PM PST by Carismar
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To: Carismar

There is no back door.


12 posted on 02/24/2016 8:42:22 PM PST by kempo
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Apple could take the phone and unlock it. Of that you should have no doubt.


13 posted on 02/24/2016 8:43:36 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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“I guess every terrorist has been put on notice they can use Apple devices to coordinate terrorist acts internationally? “

Yes, let in terrorists who have jihadi crap on the facebook page. Promote a traitor like Hassan who they knew was emailing al Qeida. The Somali machete man at the restaurant last week was a non citizen who the FBI was watching for FOUR years as a terrorist risk.
But its all the fault of apple.

Go lick some boots clean and go back to sleep.


14 posted on 02/24/2016 8:47:09 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Carismar

I’m not sure .. Rush had mentioned that the main problem was that the owner of the phone has control over it’s security .. not Apple.

Therefore, Apple would have to write special software just to be able to enter the phone and retrieve the data. And, if they have to write new software .. that leaves them open to all types of security issues.

Now, I don’t have an iPhone, but Rush does and has had for a long time. I’m just recounting his info.


15 posted on 02/24/2016 8:52:42 PM PST by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: FreedomStar3028

It was the “employer” who is at fault .. not Apple. The employer is supposed to know how to set up the phone so they maintain control over it, no matter how many employees they give it to over the years.

Go read what Rush wrote about this .. it will really clear things up.


16 posted on 02/24/2016 8:54:43 PM PST by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: FreedomStar3028

“chain of custody...”


17 posted on 02/24/2016 9:00:09 PM PST by NaturalScience
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To: Swordmaker

Who the f**k knows what to believe anymore?


18 posted on 02/24/2016 9:14:13 PM PST by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.56)
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To: FreedomStar3028

>>>Apple could take the phone and unlock it.

Read the article. Especially the paragraph beginning with.

“The FBI is asking Apple to create a tool that..”


19 posted on 02/24/2016 9:24:50 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Swordmaker

They care about their bank accounts. That’s it.


20 posted on 02/24/2016 9:30:28 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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