Posted on 01/26/2016 5:27:41 AM PST by rellimpank
A Wauwatosa man is under federal investigation for selling guns without a proper license, buying more than 500 firearms from an outdoors store and then selling them through a website or at gun shows, according to newly unsealed court documents.
The guns, primarily used firearms, were purchased from 13 Gander Mountain stores across Wisconsin and sold through the website Gunbroker, according to a search warrant unsealed in federal court in Milwaukee last week.
The suspect, who is 60, recruited Gander Mountain employees to watch for used firearms and call him when they came into the store, according to the affidavit. He paid the employees a kickback for the referrals, it said.
The suspect, who is not being named because he has not been arrested or charged, could not be reached for comment through email or phone messages.
The case remains open, according to Martin Siebenaler, spokesman with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is investigating the matter.
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Records obtained by the ATF show the suspect has bought 531 guns from Gander Mountain from 2003 to 2015, spending nearly $170,000 on the guns; 513 of the guns were used. Some 428 of the guns were purchased from 2010 to early 2015, records show.--
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I was just pondering who will be the “example” of an unlicensed dealer for the ATF. Clearly this guy volunteered and his activities predate the 0 Executive events.
He’s for darn sure not making any money on the ones he bought at Gander Mountain.
“.......who will be the “example†of an unlicensed dealer for the ATF. Clearly this guy volunteered..........”
Are we sure the guy actually volunteered or was he a gubmint “plant”. I smell a rotten fish somewhere.
Why should ex post facto laws mean anything to the Obama Regime??
Sorry around here we call someone that does something incredibly stupid and gets caught a “volunteer”.
I was wondering how you make money buying used guns at a big box store and resell them on line. It might be that they were incredibly rare and priced wrong by a GM employee that was getting a kickback.
So the new “law” (roll-eyes) is now retroactive?
I’m calling BS!
Honestly though, if he clears $100 per firearm and sold 531 firearms across 15 years, he made just under 60k, which works out to about 4k a year with 40-50 guns moved a year. He’s not making a ton of money doing it.
His bigger problem is he is technically buying with the intent to resell.
So over 5 years he spent $170 grand on 531 guns. Thats 100 guns a year.
Isnt that below the threshhold for requiring a FFL? I mean before the rubber band legal approach bam bam wants.
Its not a new law. Its a re-interpretation of existing law through rewrite of regulations.
No ex-post facto concerns.
Dictators love this approach.
He probably would have gotten an FFL, but the ATF denied it to him. Used to be, many people were FFL, then the rules were tightened so as to require storefront.
Got that right.
Their prices...new or used, are simply outrageous.
A friend traded in a M&P Bodyguard for $225.00, saw it in the used section three days later for $401.00.
I can buy them new in box for $300.00 without trying very hard.
(Not that I would...I think they are useless little toys, but that's another story.)
Their markups are at least 70%, if not more on some models, depending on what they think it should be worth.
I won't even buy ammo from them and there have been times that they were the only ones that had .22 in stock.
That site requires sales be handled through FFL holders. This 'unclear' bullshit is just supposition of this man being some kind of illegal arms dealer. The exception to this is firearms made before 1891 IIRC. The truth of this is ATF didn't prove anything and can't prove anything unless they can get a court ordered fishing license from some damned judge that believes their lies and innuendo - that's why he hasn't been charged.
Everything on Gunbroker that is required to, goes through a FFL, ATF implying otherwise is just a lie.
Now, back when guns were sold on ebay, there were folks that would skip the FFL part.
It is still not that hard to get an FFL. You have to be capable of dealing with oceans of BS and redtape. The famous crackdown was mostly on folks that had marginal records and tried to fight back against ATF inspections.
It depends where you are living. Trying to get an FFL in Chicago is impossible because of their zoning requirements. In most urban areas, zoning alone makes it very difficult to get an FFL.
I find it hard to reconcile the “It is not that hard” and “You have to deal with oceans of BS and redtape.”
Aren’t those statements contradictory?
Zoning is a real pain in a lot of places.
I gave up my FFL because the potential for a paper error that was a felony was just too great. Not a worthwhile liablility when you are politically active.
That says a lot about how much the system is trusted, and the chilling effect of regulation.
The number of FFLs dropped 200,000 over 5 years because of such effects, all because President Clinton wanted it so.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-war-on-gun-dealers_10.html
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