Posted on 12/26/2015 1:58:21 AM PST by BeadCounter
Yet, intriguingly, the extremists initially seemed to have as little detail about what actually happened as authorities on the ground, who, in the first hours after the disaster, were unsure of the cause.
Instead, in a brief and strikingly vague statement, IS condemned ‘Russian crusaders’ for their involvement in Syria, and warned that infidels ‘neither have safety in the lands of Muslims nor in their air’ and that ‘soldiers of the Caliphate were able to down a Russian airplane over Sinai province’.
If anything, the implication seemed to be that they had shot down the plane from the ground, not sabotaged it with a bomb.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Full title: “Did Putin plant the holiday jet bomb that killed 224 Russians? Ex-KGB agent claims this dossier proves the Kremlin orchestrated the atrocity to justify waging war on Syria “
At the least, one has to admit, the terrorists first said they shot the plane down and released that footage which people seem to assert is bogus of the plane being shot down, then, some days later, they claim they brought the plane down in a bomb that was in a can of soda.
Same story, fewer popups as the DM seems to always give me:
http://nehandaradio.com/2015/12/26/did-putin-plant-the-holiday-jet-bomb-that-killed-224-russians/
Yes. ISIS is innocent in this and every other terrorist action the west accuses them of committing. It’s time we apologjze to them. ISIS is not the enemy, Christianity and the Tea Party are. /sarc
ISIS and Russia are enemies. Russia, the KGB, and the present day successors to the KGB collectively have the distinction of killing and murdering far more human beings than either ISIS or Hitler’s Germany. Putin is the former KGB officer who is the successor to those who commanded the same organization who committed those vast number of murders and killings.
You are saying, that the KGB, without acting under orders from Stalin, on their own authority, out killed Hitler’s Germany?
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think a more accurate way to say it is that Stalin’s USSR killed more people that Hitler’s Germany. Both regime’s used their KGB/Gestapo types, special units and general army to do the killings.
The KGB were an evil bunch, I and I’m certain their successors are not choir boys, but they cannot be tagged with 100% of Stalin’s kills, they were only one of the instruments Stalin used.
I’m having a hard time believing any aspect of this story because of Russian ruthlessness. I could see this from a guy with no family and he’s in the hospital about to die. But to put your family’s heads on the chopping block, too? He’s former-KGB, surely he knows what mother Russia does to agents who talk too much. His family is as good as dead, too. This story is made up or this guy is completely nuts.
Any story that captures the news for more than a handful of cycles will be subjected to the entire spectrum of conspiracy theory’s.
Coming soon to a tabloid near you...
-Russian crash survivors being held in Area 51-
-Elvis’s body found with Russian crash victims-
-Bush, Cheney, involved in Russian crash-
It wouldn’t be the first time he’s been accused of faking a terror bombing to advance his goals and go to war. The Ryazan apartment bombing comes to mind. Not a lot of information remains about that attack as the Duma forbade investigations and locked away the evidence for something like 75 years, so all there is to go on is what’s in the news from that time.
Papers like Novaya Gazeta covered it a bit, but since the last time one of their reporters covered Putin in an unfavorable light that reporter was murdered on Putin’s birthday, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of willingness to look into it.
The guy has no proof and his opinion is tainted with anger.
Important part —>
One man certainly believes so: Boris Karpichkov, a former spy with the KGB (later renamed the FSB) who now lives under a new identity with his wife and family at a secret location in England after fleeing here in fear for his life.
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Of course, this could simply be the most monstrous slur by a deeply disenchanted man. For it has to be said that Major Karpichkov fell out with his KGB paymasters over money he claimed was owed to him, and ended up in jail before fleeing to Britain.
Bookmarking for when freepers go gaga over Put-m-in-the-ground on a thread. Anyone inform Trump yet? Anyone inform Bush yet?
US National Insecurity: The Art Of Blaming Russia (For Everything)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-24/us-national-insecurity-art-blaming-russia-everything
“You are saying, that the KGB, without acting under orders from Stalin, on their own authority, out killed Hitler’s Germany?”
No, but you stated it fairly accurately, albeit the organization/s existed under a variety of organizational structures, names, and leaders. They, the various organizations, CHEKA and so forth, represented what amounted to criminal organizations who succeeded in seizing control of governments before Stalin rose to power, while Stalin was in power, and after they removed Stalin from power by assassinating him. Stalin used them to terrorize everyone into submission, and so did the leaders of this criminal organization with and without Stalin’s orders and knowledge.
“Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think a more accurate way to say it is that Stalin’s USSR killed more people that Hitler’s Germany. Both regime’s used their KGB/Gestapo types, special units and general army to do the killings.”
Russia’s regimes under the control of this criminal organization/s continued with the killings at lesser degrees long after Germany’s Reich was demolished and the Soviet Union was dissolved.
“The KGB were an evil bunch, I and I’m certain their successors are not choir boys, but they cannot be tagged with 100% of Stalin’s kills, they were only one of the instruments Stalin used.”
That is like Adolf Eichmann pleading not guilty by virtue of blaming superior orders for his role in the implementation of the Holocaust. It matters not whether you attribute 99 percent of the deaths, numbering in the tens of millions, or 1 percent of the deaths numbering in the many hundreds of thousands or a million plus; Putin and the organizations he leads are responsible for more deaths than ISIS whether you count there entire bloody history or you only count those killed and murdered since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Many of the war crimes they commit today remain the same as they were in the period from 1916 to 1940. The scale of the killing may be less for the present, but the verbal threats and lesser killing coming from many Russian leaders are no less apocalyptic in scope.
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I like Trump. I just hope he knows how evil putin really is. I like Cruz more. However, our nation needs a revival. Nothing will get better as long as we continue our pre-born genocide. It is unacceptable.
Could have just as easily been a Western intelligence agency for that matter.
You obviously know zero about the history of the KGB/FSB and how they operate(d).
Well, Putin certainly isn't ignoring it, doing more than anyone in killing ISIS Terrorist & disrupting their oil trade with Turkey.
Because believing a muslim might have done it is just too bizarre.
Given Putin’s arsenal, he had NO NEED to kill hundreds of Russians to justify his presence in Syria...now that we’re pretty much disarmed and pulling back in the world, Putin now knows that he do what he feels like, anywhere.
But yea, I can see how the people that support Obama’s hatred of Putin need something to grasp onto here.
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