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It's probably good expectations wise for Trump to be considered the underdog in Iowa [vanity]

Posted on 12/12/2015 3:16:51 PM PST by springwater13

Iowa caucuses are dominated by religious social conservatives who go nowhere in New Hampshire. That means a Trump victory against polls will be all the more dramatic. He gets to frame his victory as the people vs. the dishonest media/establishment and their BS polls. The media will go unhinged and into pandemonium. If he wins Iowa, there is no stopping Trump. He rolls into NH, South Carolina, SEC. Game Over. He wins. Keeping expectations in check for Trump in Iowa is to his advantage.

It also takes A LOT OF HEAT off of Trump. With being the front runner, Cruz is going to face major scrutiny like never before. Trump has prospered taking more incoming than anyone else for the last 6 months. Carson wilted under the heat. Now it is Cruz's challenge. Super PACS and GOPe forces will now run attack ads at Cruz instead of Trump to blunt his momentum so he doesn't run away with Iowa. They fear attacking Trump will only move more of his base to Cruz.

The key to winning Iowa is to peak at the end and turn out your voters. Listen to what Chuck Laudner, Trump's Iowa campaign manager, says about his organization. He knows what he is doing. Trump has a database of many, many tens of thousands of voters who have signed pledge cards. Trump is getting crowds to his rallies in the thousands in counties where in 2012 only a few hundred people turned out to vote for the winner.

Basically, if Trump turns out the majority of his support he wins. It's all about organization. He has the votes to win. The question is do they turn out? I think if they show up for 3 hour rallies. They'll show up for a 45 minute caucus.


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1 posted on 12/12/2015 3:16:51 PM PST by springwater13
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To: springwater13

Same for Jeb. LOL


2 posted on 12/12/2015 3:19:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: springwater13

LOL

Okay


3 posted on 12/12/2015 3:20:07 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: springwater13

Your not going to let him get away with saying that about you.

Fight Fight Fight

How juvenile.


4 posted on 12/12/2015 3:23:55 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: springwater13

Interesting Story about his Iowa Campaign Manager:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-iowa-operation-feeling-good-cruz-closing-gap/story?id=35704808


5 posted on 12/12/2015 3:24:15 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: springwater13

I hope Cruz wins Iowa and several other good primaries; but I hope Trump wins a decisive nomination and they form a ticket.

I know that’s not much of an original thought around here. But sometimes the best thoughts are not original!


6 posted on 12/12/2015 3:25:05 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: springwater13

Yes, I think all teams need to manage their expectations for iowa, which has given some wacky results durung the last few elections.


7 posted on 12/12/2015 3:25:06 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: springwater13

Winners:
2012 - Rick Santorum (25%), Mitt Romney (25%), Ron Paul (21%)
2008 - Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%)
2004 - George W. Bush (unopposed)
2000 - George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (31%), Alan Keyes (14%)
1996 - Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%)
1992 - George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1988 - Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%)
1984 - Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
1980 - George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%)
1976 - Gerald Ford (45%) and Ronald Reagan (43%)


8 posted on 12/12/2015 3:26:22 PM PST by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: springwater13

Huckabee...... winner then loser
Santorum....... winner then loser

Cruz...... ???


9 posted on 12/12/2015 3:30:44 PM PST by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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To: donna
1980 - George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%)

ha!

10 posted on 12/12/2015 3:30:46 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: springwater13

Trump says it is important to come in first to secure as many delegates as possible and tamp down speculation of a brokered convention. Plus he just really likes to win. :)


11 posted on 12/12/2015 3:43:58 PM PST by erlayman
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To: springwater13

If Cruz can consolidate fiscal and social conservative support, he will win. Trump has money and name ID, but is not conservative.


12 posted on 12/12/2015 3:45:23 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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Conservative enough for me, this time around. Time for ideological purity later if Trump wins this.


13 posted on 12/12/2015 3:49:51 PM PST by erkelly
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To: springwater13; All

While I will vote for Cruz if nominated for pres, good point!


14 posted on 12/12/2015 3:51:46 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: erlayman; springwater13
Trump says it is important to come in first to secure as many delegates as possible and tamp down speculation of a brokered convention.

AND AS IF BY MAGIC.

"We are now hearing news of the Empire Striking Back. We are hearing about a brokered convention.

Bulletproof: Ted Cruz Rocks Establishment

15 posted on 12/12/2015 4:08:16 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: springwater13

Iowa is just one state. You can win Iowa and still lose. It is the big picture that matters. Most importantly, we must not let the liberal Dem/GOP coalition cause us to wipe out the entire top tier. Let the people decide for themselves according to the issues. That’s how it is suppose to work.


16 posted on 12/12/2015 4:08:47 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: iowamark
Trump has money and name ID, but is not conservative.

The question is, what 'kind' of person do we need right now to keep the US from going straight to hell ?

Would it be better to have a conservative or a risk-taker ?

17 posted on 12/12/2015 4:11:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
That's how it is suppose to work.

"The dirty little secret is, If you take a close look at the actual rules for a convention (which are written by the party), you will find out that if the 'leaders' of the party decide on a brokered convention, the delegate count doesn't actually matter. ALL of the delegates could be pledged to ONE candidate, and the 'leaders' could at least try to bully them into nominating someone else. The ONLY votes that actually count of those cast by the delegates at the convention, not the votes that choose the delegates."

(see link in post 15 for source)

18 posted on 12/12/2015 4:14:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: donna
And in the General Election:

2012 - Barack Obama
2008 - Barack Obama
2004 - George W. Bush
2000 - Al Gore
1996 - Bill Clinton
1992 - Bill Clinton
1988 - Michael Dukakis
1984 - Ronald Reagan

Yet Iowa is so important in choosing our candidates.

19 posted on 12/12/2015 4:18:26 PM PST by Drew68
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To: UCANSEE2

Yes, but that does not mean that the individual voters do not ultimately count the most. The power grubbers can pull that off, but it will be at their own peril. It is just a candidate, not an office yet. Voters can then turn around and vote for someone else and even abandon the party altogether.

The presidency, the office, will be decided by the people via the electoral college. So if a party wants to ignore the will of the voters, they are setting themselves up to be losers.

That is why it is vitally important that we get someone in there who will end the power reign of terror in the upper ranks of the GOP.

I think the theory behind that brokered option is so that parties cannot too easily be taken over by someone who does not hold to their principles. Guessing. Unfortunately in this case, the enemies to traditional Republican ideals have already taken over. Thy brokered convention is a ploy for them to retain power when what needs to happen is for real conservatives to take back control of the party.


20 posted on 12/12/2015 4:29:05 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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