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Conservative backlash grows against brokered convention
The Hill ^ | December 11, 2015 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 12/11/2015 3:44:47 PM PST by jazusamo

Anti-establishment Republicans are up in arms over talk of a brokered Republican Party convention.

Ben Carson warned a brokered convention would "destroy" the GOP, while supporters of Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) expressed dismay that party leaders would take part in meetings considering the possibility.

"This is clearly their contingency to stop Trump and Cruz at all costs," Iowa radio host Steve Deace, who is supporting Cruz for president, told The Hill. "These people would rather lose elections than lose control of the party. And they'd rather have Hillary in the White House than someone the GOP base actually wants."

The Washington Post reported Thursday that party leaders -- including supporters of GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio - met privately to discuss the possibility of a brokered convention, ostensibly to derail the hopes of a candidate deemed unelectable by party elites. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Preibus attended the meeting at a Washington restaurant, though they did not speak at it, according to the Post.

The meeting follows months in which Trump has dominated the GOP race. Carson and Cruz, two other candidates that some Republicans believe would be weak in a general election, are also near the top of polls, though Carson has been fading.

Trump's rise in particular has unnerved the GOP establishment, which worries his candidacy could sink Republican hopes of holding the Senate. Trump courted controversy this week by calling for a temporary ban on Muslims traveling to the United States, a position rejected by every other GOP candidate that polls show has support from the Republican electorate.

Supporters for insurgent candidates view the private discussions as desperation from terrified establishment figures, and believe it will only serve to harden their supporters. Carson's campaign was already fundraising off the report by mid-afternoon on Friday.

"Dumb. Big mistake. They just poured gasoline all over the fire," said Jeffrey Lord, a former Ronald Reagan administration official who supports Trump for president.

"I get that you need to have contingency plans in place, but this looks like they're trying to rig the game and it just feeds the narrative that the establishment is completely out of touch with the base."

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski had a short message for the RNC:

"Play the game out in front of us," he told The Hill, adding that he's not worried about a brokered convention because "every piece of data shows that [Donald Trump] is the clear front-runner."

The speculation that party leaders are privately discussing what to do if an outsider is on course to land the nomination provided fresh evidence to some of the disconnect between base conservatives and establishment Republicans.

"The Republican establishment is playing with fire if they take any action that is perceived to harm the winners of caucus and primary states," said Adam Brandon, CEO of the conservative activist group FreedomWorks.

"If that's what they are planning or doing, they may inadvertently set the stage for independent presidential campaigns and further damage an already fractured relationship with many conservatives and Republican voters, which is why insurgent candidates are thriving in the first place."

Supporters for Bush and Rubio attended the meeting, according to the Post, and officials from those campaigns did not respond to requests for comment.

The RNC pushed back strongly Friday against the characterization that some within the party are plotting a takeover at the convention.

RNC spokesman Sean Spicer said the discussion about the potential for a brokered convention was merely "cocktail conversation" over the nuts and bolts of the race.

"There was a dinner where the subject was how the delegate process works," Spicer said Friday on CNN.

"We walked through the delegate selection process, what states were going on what date, how each state handled the delegate process, and at the end we took a series of questions," he said. "It's really nothing more than that."

Spicer argued that it wasn't suspicious that supporters of Bush and Rubio were on hand, noting that Priebus's days are filled by meetings with representatives from all the campaigns, as well as conservative pundits, consultants and advisers from all corners of the party.

Still, some say the optics of the meeting are bad for the national party, which is once again seeking to stamp out a fire that has sprung up over its handling of the primary process.

Fair or not, the alleged discussion about a brokered convention will confirm the suspicions many in the base have harbored for a long time, which have helped to fuel the rise of Trump, Carson and Cruz.

"It's completely counter-productive if it looks like Republican power-brokers are trying to orchestrate this," said former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), who is supporting Bush for president.

Gregg said the party may be headed to a contested convention - not to ambush an outsider, but because it will be difficult for one candidate in the huge field of contenders to lock down a majority of delegates ahead of the convention.

The party needs to have the infrastructure and processes in place to handle that scenario, but it's unhelpful to plan for it in a way that could be perceived as putting a thumb on the scale, Gregg argued.

"It's something Priebus has to plan for, but he needs to be careful who he's discussing it with," Gregg said. "The days of party boss politics are over and have been over for a long time. People will have a negative reaction to anything that has a whiff of that kind of backroom dealing."

Supporters for establishment Republicans running for president mostly rolled their eyes at the controversy, saying it was an example of outsider candidates looking to stoke outrage over the byzantine rules governing the GOP nominating process.

"This is getting totally blown out of proportion," said Katie Packer Gage, a veteran of Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign whose consulting firm is assisting Rubio's efforts in Michigan.

"The idea that the Illuminati within the party is coming down from on high to decide who will be the nominee is ludicrous," she continued. "Ben Carson needs to call someone versed in parliamentary procedures to explain to him how this all works."

While some Republicans say the huge field makes it more likely that the party could face its first contested convention since 1976, there is still broad skepticism from many quarters that that's where things are headed. Many believe the eventual nominee will emerge once the primaries turn to winner-take-all contests on March 15.

"This is just a story that turns up at points in the cycle when there's no definition to the race," said former New Hampshire Attorney General Tom Rath, who is supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich for president. "This idea that there will be a stampede on the floor is very romantic but I don't see it happening."

A spokesperson for Chris Christie's campaign declined to weigh in, other than to say that the New Jersey governor is only focused on winning the nomination outright. That was the general message coming from campaign operatives in private conversations with several other campaigns.

"Here's the bottom line," Spicer said. "Republican voters will choose the delegates that go to the convention in Cleveland next July. Those people will decide the nominee."


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To: jazusamo
up in arms over talk of a brokered Republican Party convention.

Just where is this "TALK" coming from? Best I can tell it's only the MSM........

Could this be another case of "throwing shit on the wall" and seeing how much will stick?......Nah, they don't do that.

Sorry but I'm not falling for their BS...........

141 posted on 12/12/2015 2:00:52 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: jazusamo

Supporters for Bush and Rubio attended the meeting, according to the Post, and officials from those campaigns did not respond to requests for comment.

“This is getting totally blown out of proportion,” said Katie Packer Gage, a veteran of Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign whose consulting firm is assisting Rubio’s efforts in Michigan.


This says everything. The FACT that Rubio and Bush surrogates were at the meeting needs to be highlighted in the next debate.

Someone, Trump or Cruz, needs to call out the low rankers, i.e.: Bush and Rubio, that they HAD surrogates in that dinner meeting with McConnell.

And Mitt Romney surrogates need to shut up. Romney is a loser. He LOST big time.


142 posted on 12/12/2015 2:09:50 PM PST by E20erer
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To: jazusamo

I’d like to see Trump and Cruz broker a deal in advance for one of them to give his delegates to the other thus thwarting any GOPe plans. I have no idea whether that’s doable. But I am sick to death of the way the “elites” manipulate the system. That goes for the Democrats in double measure who foisted an illegal candidate on us in 2008 and 2012.


143 posted on 12/12/2015 3:48:40 PM PST by generally
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To: sportutegrl

My thoughts exactly.

News flash to GOPe: We the people are tired of having your “electable” candidates foisted on us and then going on to lose.

My personal preference is exactly opposite of the GOPe. I’d prefer either a staunch conservative or a candidate who is chosen by the unmanipulated votes of everyday Republicans. Hopefully the two would be the same person. I would rather see a real candidate run and lose than a Democrat-lite candidate win.

If Bush is the candidate, I will vote 3d party.


144 posted on 12/12/2015 3:54:00 PM PST by generally
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To: generally

Candidates can’t make deals on the first ballot. In most cases, candidates’ agreements aren’t binding on delegates even after that. A lot of goodwill has to be involved.


145 posted on 12/12/2015 3:54:59 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; AuH2ORepublican

Third parties are pointless and counterproductive in our system. In the short term a 3rd party would mean democrat victory (which is death at this point). In the long term everyone who was a Republican would move to the new party (or the new party would collapse) and it would be the Republican party with a different name. That’s the way it works, the vast majority of Northern Whigs became Republicans just like virtually all former Federalists became Whigs. The longer the split went on, the worse for the country. Look at Canada in the 90’s.

And there is zero indication of any major constitutional changes coming any time soon.

I’ll be backing the Republican nominee for President. Anyone on the right who mounts a third party bid is a scumbag trying to throw the election to Hillary like Ross Perot.


146 posted on 12/12/2015 4:28:37 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
In the short term a 3rd party would mean democrat victory

As opposed to what we have now?

Frankly, I can't tell the difference in ideology between the RATs and the GOPe. The only difference is the speed getting there.

147 posted on 12/12/2015 9:46:26 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Jemian

With a 2/3 democrat Congress like we got after the 1912 election, you’d feel the difference. And there would be no bouncing back from the vicious raping this country would get from today’s democrats. 1 more bad SC Justice taking the place of a good one and we’re well phu**ed.


148 posted on 12/12/2015 9:49:50 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

You just described the current situation. I am not sure there is any bouncing back. It may take a revolution.


149 posted on 12/12/2015 10:44:26 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Jemian

No, I didn’t. Pelosi and Shoemer with 2/3s majorities would enact single-payer health care, mostly ban guns, pass a new soak the rich economy-killing tax hike, repeal the Taft-Hartley act and outlaw right to work, possibly go after talk radio and try to shut down this website, ect. And wise Latina would give it all the thumbs up.


150 posted on 12/12/2015 11:00:01 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

with president hillary and a 2/3 dem congress, obama could replace scalia on the high court. churches will monitored for saying anything negative about gays or planned parenthood. i will back the most electable candidate.


151 posted on 12/13/2015 7:29:33 AM PST by yongin (jesus is lord. not allah!)
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To: jazusamo

Anybody “backlashing” over the thought of a brokered convention when we’re still a month away from casting a single vote is frankly stupid. Let the votes happen kids, then see what happens.


152 posted on 12/13/2015 7:33:21 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: jjotto

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.


153 posted on 12/13/2015 8:13:06 AM PST by generally
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To: gaijin

Wouldn’t it be Stevenson in 1956. And Dewey in 1948


154 posted on 12/14/2015 8:35:35 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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