Posted on 12/11/2015 3:44:47 PM PST by jazusamo
That all depends on your definition of "Republican". Trump has much more in common with those Republicans who are the "base" of the party, who have a majority of Republican voters. The "Republican" East Coast Minority (actually "Democrats Lite"), of course, hates Trump, and, as of now, they control the purse strings and rule-making.
If Trump runs, and especially if he wins, a tide of coat-tail riders acceptable to the "base" will be swept into office, displacing both self-identified Democrats, and the "stealth Democrats", who will have their hot little hands torn away from their current sinecures.
Full disclosure.....I am NOT a Republican. I have been (and am) registered as an "Independent" (and am a strong conservative) since I first signed up to vote (back in the late 1960's)
With Cruz gaining, I’d think the conservatives should be in good shape unless the Mitch McConnells of the party do something to stop Cruz or Trump from ceding their votes to the other in the event of a brokered convention. I don’t know what Carson would do if he has enough votes to make an impact by then - whether Trump has burned his bridges with Carson or not.
All in all, Cruz is the smartest in not burning bridges.I’m hoping the Donald is just putting on a show with his jabs at Cruz, because the ticket that will win both the primary and the general includes Trump and Cruz, and they both do well to not eat the other in the quest to decide which is the VP and which the P on that ticket.
Hey, the GOPE party “leadership” tell us who is electable and who isn’t. That’s how it is, that’s how it always has been......yeah has been....
And we’re supposed to believe they were just meeting for a civics lesson on how primaries go.
They REALLY think we’re stupid.
The Mitt Romney gal was the exact opposite of Trump - oozing the “anybody who doesn’t accept the status quo is bat-shit crazy” smugness. I think these people have no clue that we see through the media lies.
I’ll be perfectly happy voting third-party and letting the eGOP/DNC destroy itself.
Dont forget to add GOPe pissboy Marco Rubio to the list of party sellouts. Looking and listening to the little puke makes me almost as sick as looking at Hillary.
Rebellion IS on!
I thought Trump did the perfect deal with the Brett Baier/Megyn Kelly styled RNC trap.
He trapped them right back. He agreed if they agreed.
He would support the nominee, if the RNC played fair with him.
“Playing fair” gets to be defined by no one, but TRUMP.
Marvelous. Smart deal.
You are so right.
The GOPE has joined forces with all the wrong people to take out TRUMP. This includes various assignments for the principal players.
The Clinton machine is to push the narrative that Cruz will be the nominee, before the first vote is cast, and in spite of his poor performance in national polls.
The GOPE is to mess with the delegate allocation and flame up as much negative foreign commentary against TRUMP as their office can muster. Democrats will help.
Thank you!!!!
Yes, the suggestion that "we sharpen our weapons" dovetails nicely with the "imagery" of insurgency...
The issue for GOPe is not what is going on. The issue is what it looks like is going on. GOPe got this way living inside the Beltway spin cycle where some sort of space-time warp leads them to think that this logic is going to convince anyone. It fools those who want to be fooled - i.e. the GOPeers themselves.
Oh, I think there is a strong argument to the contrary - blowing up the party is a winning bet no matter how you look at it.
Forgetting the complaints, the unfairness, and everything that this article highlights about the GOP-E, let's just look at that little snippet above.
What the hell do they know about who is or is not electable?
They were absolutely wrong on: Reagan (they opposed him tooth and nail), Ford, Bush 41, Dole, McCain, Romney.
If fair and square we settle on Trump, Cruz, Carson or any other the others, then that person will get pushed over the top. Don't they understand yet that they lose the PRECINCT LEVEL whispering campaign when they lose their base???
Yep, they don’t want Trump to be electable. They really, really don’t but that doesn’t make him unelectable and they know it. LOL!
If nothing else all this kerfuffle puts the GOPee on warning.
try this brokered manipulations crap and there will be hades to pay.
Fixed; a statement that demonstrates the general disdain insiders feel for the unwashed. They can't even see it in themselves. At least the 'smoke filled room' dealers of the past knew what they were about.
We gave them the House then the Senate and they think that they can hold them without us.
Idiots, all.
And what a coincidence that Yeb and Rubio were in attendance while all of the others were not.
I quit the Republican party the day that Boehner was reelected as Speaker. In Maryland we have a closed primary so I should rejoin them to vote in the primary to give Trump as many delegates as possible.
There are probably many more in this situation. For those that are; rejoin at least for this primary election.
A brokered convention is one where no one has enough delegates committed to him/her to be nominated on the first ballot. It has been nearly 100 years since there was a truly brokered convention. In 1932 Franklin Roosevelt emerged as a compromise candidate. In the infamous 1922 Democratic convention, when the “Wets” and the “Drys” battled 102 ballots were cast before a relatively unknown candidate was chosen, John W. Davis of WV. This was because 2/3 of all the delegates were required for nomination.
It is highly unlikely that the Republican convention will end in a brokered convention. Why?
1. There are simply no “power bosses” anymore. The last was Richard Dailey in Chicago in 1968. There is no one who commands large numbers of delegates.
2. By the late Spring this candidates will be sorted out. I believe that the three remaining will be Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. Even if there is a desperation on the part of the establishment to nominate Rubio the delegates won't be there. In 1964 there was a desperate attempt to deny Barry Goldwater the nomination. But the votes just weren't there.
3. If Trump “runs the table” I personally think that the establishment Republicans will find a way cozy up to him. They despised Reagan, but when it became obvious that he was going to be the nominee and gain the levers of power in the party, the country club Republican found a way to fall in line. I think this will happen if Cruz emerges as well.
Anyway, that is my two cents worth. With needing just 50% of the delegates it is extremely hard to find a scenario where the leaders can throw their weight behind someone who has not proven himself in the primaries. There are just too many primaries, unlike the days when most delegates were chosen by the few leaders.
Me too. I am so sick of these mealy mouthed buffoons saying one thing and doing the opposite.
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