Posted on 09/09/2015 7:56:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson knocked rival Donald Trump's immigration plan on Tuesday, saying that deporting the country's undocumented immigrants "sounds really cool" but would be far too costly and complicated.
"It sounds really cool, you know, 'Let's just round them all up and send them back,'" Carson said. "People who say that have no idea what that would entail in terms of our legal system, the costs - forget about it. Plus, where you gonna send them? It's just a double whammy."
Carson has been gaining on Trump, the GOP frontrunner, in recent polls. An NBC/Marist poll released Sunday found Carson has jumped to second place in Iowa among Republican voters, seven points behind the real estate mogul.
Trump's immigration plan calls for deporting the estimated 11 million undocumented workers currently in the U.S., a proposal that opponents say would cost billions and would be nearly impossible to execute. Carson said that he instead favors a plan that would allow undocumented workers the chance to become guest workers.
he outspoken leader of the GOP field has so far refrained from knocking Carson, though that could soon change if the former neurosurgeon continues his steady rise in the polls.
"I'm hoping for Ben to really hit me at some point because I love to counter-punch," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last week.
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“Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson knocked rival Donald Trump’s immigration plan on Tuesday, saying that deporting the country’s undocumented immigrants “sounds really cool” but would be far too costly and complicated. ... Carson said that he instead favors a plan that would allow undocumented workers the chance to become guest workers.”
If Carson hasn’t figured out that the one-time costs of deportation are a fraction of the year-after-year costs of keeping them here, he is not qualified to be near the Oval Office. Maybe he would do O.K. as Surgeon General.
This is orchestrated by the GOP Establishment, Jeb in particular. They intend to split the Trump vote.
Team Jebs Newest Strategy Push Ben Carson?
Don't fall for it.
This page shows signed EOs for all the years of Obama.
Not nearly as many as some would believe.
I find it interesting how much 'stuff' gets repeated on FR without backup data for it. Nothing personal, you were handy.
/johnny
I must still be missing something? i said, “Day 1...”
“I find it interesting how much ‘stuff’ gets repeated on FR”
I must still be missing something? i said,
“Day 1- rescind ALL of obamas E.O.s.”
Eisenhower told the New York Times exactly what had caused the problem: The rise in illegal border crossing by Mexican [illegal immigrants] to a current rate of more than 1 million cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the federal government.
Ike took quick and decisive action. He used 1,075 Border Patrol Agents to seal the border. In doing so, he achieved a task our government today deems impossible with a force that is 10% larger. Once the border was sealed, Eisenhower went about the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens.
In June of 1954, he appointed retired General Joseph Jumpin Joe Swing to head Operation Wetback, which sent local and federal officials on sweeps of Mexican neighborhoods looking for illegals.
Within one month 50,000 illegals had been captured and deported, while nearly half a million more fled the country to avoid arrest. By September 80,000 more illegals had been removed from the state of Texas alone, and between 500,000-700,000 more had fled the country.
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And Ike did not have to contend with this crap of giving them all a hearing date. Plus just announcing you are going to do it will make a bunch of them leave on their own.
He comes off as too slick to me ..
We know he is smart,
He knows he is smart..
Our enemies dont care..
We have a doctor and a businessman leading the polls..
when we need a warrior.
It’s been downhill since Ike.
I’m a big fan of Dr. Carson - as a person and as a doctor, but I just don’t think he’s the right person to be president. I’m an evangelical too. I know others that are convinced he’s anointed by God to be president; I just happen to disagree. He’s too much of a babe in the woods when it comes to in-depth analysis of policy matters and his opinions on policy are, in my opinion, influenced more by his personal beliefs than by an understanding of all of the factors that influence policy decisions.
In this case, he’s apparently ignorant of a few salient facts: 1) He doesn’t seem to appreciate the irony of Latino families sending their unaccompanied children to a foreign country and then decrying the supposed separation of families as a result of deportation; 2)ICE, the IRS and various relief agencies have no trouble locating illegals while distributing Obama’s work permits/cards and taxpayer-funded benefits, so why would the government have trouble locating them now?; 3) He clearly doesn’t appreciate the magnitude of the cost of illegal immigration if he thinks it would be too expensive to engage in deportation of illegals - voluntary or otherwise; 4) He’s apparently naïve with respect to the motivation of politicians on both sides of the aisle in their support of amnesty. Democrats want a permanent underclass of Democratic voters and Republicans want a permanent underclass of low-cost workers.
At what point would Dr. Carson insist that America become a nation of laws again? You, Dr. Carson, may think that it’s your duty as a Christian to take care of the poor from other countries and so be it, but your personal duty does not give you the authority to impose such obligations on me and every other American taxpayer, our children, grandchildren, etc. for generations to come.
You just lost me, Dr. Carson, and I suspect that this is a self-inflicted wound that your campaign will not be able to overcome. Telling tens - if not hundreds - of thousands of American workers who have lost their jobs to illegals that you wouldn’t deport them because it’s “too expensive” is a pretty hard sell. And if you’re so ignorant to think that the only jobs the illegals are taking are hotel housekeeping staff and hamburger flippers, you have no business getting anywhere near the White House.
Ike sensed the American people were losing their ethical resolve even back then. He knew, or sensed, the beginning of the loss of resolve in Western man. Interesting.
This is a “business as usual” money pander to the big money donors.
Carson needs cash.
Carson just keeps reminding everyone how he’s not a real conservative.
I’m not a Trumpie, but good LORD it doesn’t take any brains at all to see that the President, the chief EXECUTIVE of the law, doesn’t need anything more than a literal “pen” to enforce already EXiSTING law and yes, DEPORT those we know are here illegally! I mean goodness the current -resident sure knows how to use a pen and he’s not even using it legally!
Why do these morons keep saying it is “too complex”? Costly? Maybe. But “too complex”?? Too “complex” to follow LAW ALREADY WRITTEN? Are you f’ing KIDDING me?
Ugh!!!!
Will they get all that free stuff REGARDLESS of what the President wants? YES.
As long as they are in the country.
Two options:
1. In the USA with full benefits.
2. Not in the USA, no US benefits (though some will continue to collect over the border, I know).
That's an "if" on the scale of stellar distances, and stellar masses.
I know. I crossed a line.
:)
Actually, Trump says, and I believe, that the wall doesn't even have to be that costly.
He's a good man. But...
Oh, there’s another difference you forgot to mention. The Wall. I know, minor detail.
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