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Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny (Rolling Stone)
Rolling Stone ^ | 21 Aug 15 | Matt Taibbi

Posted on 08/21/2015 2:22:07 PM PDT by Drew68

Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid

So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."

When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he went on:

"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that."

This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.

The thing is, even as Donald Trump said and did horrible things during this year's incredible run at the White House, most sane people took solace in the fact that he could never win. (Although new polls are showing that Hillary's recent spiral puts this reassuring thought into jeopardy.)

In fact, most veteran political observers figured that the concrete impact of Trump's candidacy would be limited in the worst case to destroying the Republican Party as a mainstream political force.

That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than pissing on the presidency? It seemed even more like camp because the whole shtick was fronted by a veteran reality TV star who might even be in on the joke, although of course the concept was funnier if he wasn't.

Trump had the whole country rubbernecking as this preposterous Spaulding Smails caricature of a spoiled rich kid drove the family Rolls (our illustrious electoral process in this metaphor) off the road into a ditch. It was brilliant theater for a while, but the ugliness factor has gotten out of control.

Trump is probably too dumb to realize it, or maybe he isn't, but he doesn't need to win anything to become the most dangerous person in America. He can do plenty of damage just by encouraging people to be as uninhibited in their stupidity as he is.

Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a less secure world and want to blame someone – the government, immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn Kelly, whoever – for their problems.

Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's political style encourages people to do more to express their anger than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing" are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be who they are.

His signature moment in a campaign full of them was his exchange in the first debate with Fox's Kelly. She asked him how anyone with a history of calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals" could win a general election against a female candidate like Hillary Clinton.

"I've been challenged by so many people," Trump answered. "I frankly don't have time for political correctness. And to be honest with you, the country doesn't have time either….We don't win anymore. We lose to China. We lose to Mexico….We lose to everybody."

On the surface, Kelly was just doing her job as a journalist, throwing Trump's most outrageous comments back at him and demanding an explanation.

But on another level, she was trying to bring Trump to heel. The extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media's most powerful weapons. Someone becomes famous, we dig up dirt on the person, we rub it in his or her nose, and then we demand that the person get down on bended knee and beg forgiveness.

The Clintons' 1992 joint interview on 60 Minutes was a classic example, as was Anthony Weiner's prostration before Andrew Breitbart and Chris Christie's 107-minute marathon apologia after Bridgegate. The subtext is always the same: If you want power in this country, you must accept the primacy of the press. It's like paying the cover at the door of the world's most exclusive club.

Trump wouldn't pay the tab. Not only was he not wrong for saying those things, he explained, but holding in thoughts like that is bad for America. That's why we don't win anymore, why we lose to China and to Mexico (how are we losing to Mexico again?). He was saying that hiding forbidden thoughts about women or immigrants or whoever isn't just annoying, but bad for America.

It's not exactly telling people to get out there and beat people with metal rods. But when your response to news that a couple of jackasses just invoked your name when they beat the crap out of a homeless guy is to salute your "passionate" followers who "love this country," you've gone next-level.

The political right in America has been flirting with dangerous ideas for a while now, particularly on issues involving immigrants and minorities. But in the last few years the rhetoric has gotten particularly crazy.

Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert proposed using troops and ships of war to stop an invasion of immigrant children, whom he described as a 28 Days Later-style menace. "We don't even know all of the diseases, and how extensive the diseases are," he said.

"A lot of head lice, a lot of scabies," concurred another Texas congressman, Blake Farenthold.

"I'll do anything short of shooting them," promised Mo Brooks, a congressman from the enlightened state of Alabama.

Then there's Iowa's Steve King, who is unusually stupid even for a congressman. He not only believes a recent Supreme Court decision on gay marriage allows people to marry inanimate objects, but also believes the EPA may have intentionally spilled three million gallons of toxic waste into Colorado's Animas river in order to get Superfund money.

Late last year, King asked people to "surround the president's residence" in response to Barack Obama's immigration policies. He talked about putting "boots on the ground" and said "everything is on the table" in the fight against immigrants.

So all of this was in the ether even before Donald Trump exploded into the headlines with his "They're rapists" line, and before his lunatic, Game of Thrones idea to build a giant wall along the southern border. But when Trump surged in the polls on the back of this stuff, it caused virtually all of the candidates to escalate their anti-immigrant rhetoric.

For example, we just had Ben Carson – who seems on TV like a gentle, convivial doctor who's just woken up from a nice nap – come out and suggest that he's open to using drone strikes on U.S. soil against undocumented immigrants. Bobby Jindal recently came out and said mayors in the so-called "sanctuary cities" should be arrested when undocumented immigrants commit crimes. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio have both had to change their positions favoring paths to citizenship as a result of the new dynamic.

Meanwhile, Rick Santorum, polling at a brisk zero percent, joined Jindal and Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of birthright citizenship, thereby extending the war on immigrants not just to children, but babies.

All of this bleeds out into the population. When a politician says dumb thing X, it normally takes ‘Murica about two days to start flirting publicly with X + way worse.

We saw that earlier this week, when Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson blew up Twitter by calling for undocumented immigrants to become "property of the state" and put into "compelled labor." When a caller challenged the idea, Mickelson answered, "What's wrong with slavery?"

Why there's suddenly this surge of hatred for immigrants is sort of a mystery. Why Donald Trump, who's probably never even interacted with an undocumented immigrant in a non-commercial capacity, in particular should care so much about this issue is even more obscure. (Did he trip over an immigrant on his way to the Cincinnati housing development his father gave him as a young man?)

Most likely, immigrants are just collateral damage in Trump's performance art routine, which is an absurd ritualistic celebration of the coiffed hotshot endlessly triumphing over dirty losers and weaklings.

Trump isn't really a politician, of course. He's a strongman act, a ridiculous parody of a Nietzschean superman. His followers get off on watching this guy with (allegedly) $10 billion and a busty mute broad on his arm defy every political and social convention and get away with it.

People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.

Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. F--- everything, f--- everyone. F--- immigrants and f--- their filthy lice-ridden kids. And f--- you if you don't like me saying so.

Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.


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Hifiguy over at Democratic Underground said it better than I can:

The Left is scared, and this makes me smile! :-)

1 posted on 08/21/2015 2:22:07 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

What’s DU’s snarky name for Trump?


2 posted on 08/21/2015 2:23:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Drew68

Give us some more fake rape stories, Rolling Stone.


3 posted on 08/21/2015 2:24:52 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Drew68

Their in full panic mold.


4 posted on 08/21/2015 2:25:45 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Drew68

This makes me SMILE..................:)


5 posted on 08/21/2015 2:26:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Drew68

Uh, hello kettle. rolling stoned stopped being relevant back in the last century. Might as well merge with mother jones and call it momma’s stoned. Or jonesing stoned


6 posted on 08/21/2015 2:26:15 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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To: Drew68

And we care what these yoohoos think because ... ?


7 posted on 08/21/2015 2:26:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: Drew68

Idiots writing about idiocy. Liberals are so stupid they can’t even hear words like “illegal” for example.

And yes, F them. They are law breakers. So I guess I should write a stupid article saying Rolling Stone wants criminals and crime since they think everyone is “an immigrant”.

More typical left wing drivel...guilt by association ONLY when it applies to their bug-a-boos. If you accuse them of the same they cry foul.


8 posted on 08/21/2015 2:29:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Drew68

Matt Tiabbi probably beat up the guy himself to get this stupid story.


9 posted on 08/21/2015 2:30:57 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Steely Tom
Modern 'Journalism' on display---in care of Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi

"That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than pissing on the presidency?"

10 posted on 08/21/2015 2:31:16 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Drew68

“The extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media’s most powerful weapons.”

Not as powerful anymore, is it?


11 posted on 08/21/2015 2:31:41 PM PDT by a.c.t.32
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To: Steely Tom
What’s DU’s snarky name for Trump?

tRump. Clever, huh?

12 posted on 08/21/2015 2:31:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: MarvinStinson
Give us some more fake rape stories, Rolling Stone.

Coming right up!

13 posted on 08/21/2015 2:33:15 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: Drew68

Taibbi seems to be writing one article every six months. You’d think the cocaine would help him pick up the pace.


14 posted on 08/21/2015 2:33:29 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: Tax-chick
. . . because it worked so well for the left in tying the Confederate flag to that Storm kid nutcase in South Carolina.

Do you recall how the GOP governor wet herself in her hurry to take down the Confederate flag and how corporate America wet themselves in their hurry to take everything with a Confederate flag off the shelves?

The left is hoping they can do the same with Trump whenever some yahoo involved in a violent incident of any sort uses his name. H3ll, the left will even do the violence themselves if that doesn't work.

15 posted on 08/21/2015 2:33:44 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Drew68

As long as we don’t get complacent. We need to become as vicious and relentless as they are. Put a boot on their necks (figuratively) and don’t let up until they are politically dead. Not just down, but defeated and demoralized to the point of capitulation. My dream is leftists racing illegal aliens for the other side of our borders.


16 posted on 08/21/2015 2:33:48 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Drew68

Rolling Stone never thought Trump was funny.

So how could it think he stopped being funny here?

Thank heaven Rolling Stone hasn’t changed. They’re still a bunch of nitwit yokels who think what they think matters.

Let them think that, as their world comes down around them.

Your lives are over Lefties.


17 posted on 08/21/2015 2:33:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Tax-chick
And we care what these yoohoos think because ... ?

Because they're scared. Liberals haven't been this scared for a long time. Trump is filling football stadiums while Hillary is trying to avoid prison.

18 posted on 08/21/2015 2:34:56 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
This is from Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone, whose editor runs a tight fist on the laughable nominees to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Who won't even allow a nomination for the Moody Blues.

Just sayin'...

19 posted on 08/21/2015 2:36:07 PM PDT by grania
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20 posted on 08/21/2015 2:36:22 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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