Posted on 04/03/2015 10:09:15 AM PDT by C19fan
I spent a long time on the phone last night with a law professor at one of the countrys elite law schools. This professor is a practicing Christian, deeply closeted in the workplace; he is convinced that if his colleagues in academia knew of his faith, they would make it very hard for him. We made contact initially by e-mail he is a reader of this blog and last night, by phone. He agreed to speak with me about the Indiana situation on condition that I not identify him by name or by institution. I do know his identity, and when he tells me that he is well-informed about the academy and the Supreme Court, I assure you that from where he sits, and teaches, and from his CV, he is telling the truth.
I will call him Prof. Kingsfield, after the law professor in The Paper Chase.
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"The fact that Mike Pence cant articulate it, and Asa Hutchinson doesnt care and cant articulate it, is shocking, Kingsfield said. Huckabee gets it and Santorum gets it, but theyre marginal figures. Why cant Republicans articulate this? We dont have anybody who gets it and who can unite us.
Republicans can't articulate this, but one conservative can and does. His name is Ted Cruz.
CW-II is coming.
Sooner or later, folks will just tell liberals to shove it up their collective Obamaholes, and will be prepared to back up their statements.
I really do not think there is an alternative.
They are the enemy, and must be treated as such.
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I think there are many that support Christ especially this time of the year.
I read that this family did good things for those in need.
I was happy to donate. That young lady was so truthful.
Her parents should be very proud of her.
That is a beautiful and encouraging sign on this Good Friday!
“They really do think that they know so much more than anybody did before, and there is no point in listening to anybody else, because they have all the answers, and believe that they are good.
This leads to butchery and slaughter.Always.
Abject failure of our elite higher institutions of learning.
Just miss the days when we’d see Freepathon donations skyrocket like this. Were it not for this site, many would not have donated to help the family.
I dont believe in religious freedom.
Freedom should have nothing to do with ones religious beliefs or lack thereof. The reason we intuitively have a concept like freedom is because we are individuals. We have different worldviews. We disagree about what we prefer and what we dont like. We have different opinions.
One person likes Coke. Another person likes Pepsi. In a free society, you buy what you want. In an authoritarian society, you get what someone else wants you to have. In a free society, you can discriminate (choose) between the two. In an authoritarian society, the discrimination (choice) is decided by someone else. In fact, in a free society, you can buy both, or neither. Its really nobodys business, so long as there is no aggression.
And in a free society, if you have a business, you can choose to sell only Coke, only Pepsi, both, or none. In an authortiarian society, it is illegal to sell Coke, or Pepsi, or neither, or both. In a free society, a person may want to buy a Coke, but may walk into a store that sells only Pepsi and he simply wont do business there. There will be no lawsuit, no arrest, no thug demanding protection money, no extortion, no threats, no violence, and no moral outrage that Coke-drinkers are being discriminated against. He will simply find someone that sells Pepsi. The Coke-only seller misses out on a sale, and the market sends a signal that selling Pepsi is a good way to make money which someone does. This is a system of voluntary and peaceful interaction. It is far superior to any alternative, which is inevitably violent or enforced with the threat of violence.
That is how freedom works.
I do believe in freedom, as opposed to freedom that is qualified by religion. For a lot of things go into what makes us different: worldview, tastes, priorities, religion (or lack thereof), intelligence, ability, physical stature, culture, etc. Religion is just one of those things that contribute to the diversity of the human race.
Part of the current discussion about freedom has focused on religion, largely over the issue of whether or not people with traditional religious views have the right not to violate their consciences as they ply their trades, or are they rather compelled to act contrary to their worldviews in contracting business?
What has sparked this controversy involves the question as to whether or not a Christian photographer has the right to refuse to accept a job photographing a ritual that is contrary to his faith, one that would be uncomfortable for him based on his ethical worldview.
Here are some analogous questions:
Should a lesbian photographer be compelled to accept a job taking pictures at a celebration of Fred Phelps at the Westboro Baptist Church? Or does this photographer have the right to either accept or decline this job based on her comfort level and freedom of choice? Does she have a choice, or is she under compulsion to go and be uncomfortable, to do a job against her will? Which option, choice or compulsion, would be considered freedom as opposed to tyranny?
How about:
a black photographer at a white supremacist ritual,
a Jewish photographer at a neo-nazi political rally,
a vegan at a slaughterhouse,
a Mennonite at a pornography convention,
a Muslim at a pig farm,
a Jehovahs Witness as a flag-raising ceremony,
a Tibetan at a function honoring Chairman Mao?
Should a photographer who does not believe in the death penalty be compelled to photograph executions?
Do any of these photographers reserve the right to say No, thank you, or must every photographer be compelled to do business with every other person on demand, regardless of religion, worldview, or comfort level?What if a photographer suffers from an irrational fear of left-handed people? Could he only contract weddings for the right-handed? What if a photographer is afraid of heights? Could he refuse to shoot a wedding on the observation deck of the Empire State Building?
What if an Atheist thinks religion is stupid, or even offensive, could be refuse to take pictures at a Christian ordination? What if a photographer suffered the effects of promiscuous parents and a broken family, could he turn down a job at a swingers party? How about a person whose father was beaten to death in an incident of police brutality, can he refuse jobs involving the police?
Of course, this issue of freedom of association doesnt only affect photographers.
How about these:
May a Christian ob/gyn refuse to perform abortions?
May an all-womens college refuse admission to men?
May a merchant refuse to sell alcohol or pornography or marijuana (in states in which it is legal) if he finds these legal substances to be morally troubling?
May a Muslim-owned convenience store sell eggs but not bacon?
Must a sporting goods store sell weapons and ammunition, even if the owner is a pacifist?
Must an animal rights activist who runs a pawn shop purchase a stuffed deer head for resale?
May a Lutheran pastor refuse to conduct a wedding for two Methodists, two Unitarians, or two men?
In a free society, we have the right to make choices. Others may agree with us or disagree with us. We can even be wrong. If I were to walk into a store, and the manager said, In order to do business here, you must hop up and down on one foot while reciting a poem by Catullus, and agree with me that 2+2=5, I could either comply, or choose to leave. And I would imagine the success of his business would reflect whether or not such practices are within the mainstream or not. I dont think I would call the police on him, threaten him, or compel him to say 2+2=4″ and sell me a carburetor just because I feel entitled, or because I dont like Latin poetry, or because his math is wrong, or because I think I would look like an idiot in complying with his rules. He has a choice of whether to sell; I have a choice of whether to buy. And we may choose to do business with each other, or either one of us may opt out and the transaction will not happen. Both parties are completely empowered. And neither party pulls a gun and compels a transaction. Its all voluntary.
That is how freedom works.
Sad to say, both left and right have lost touch with what freedom is. The left talks the talk on tolerance, but is utterly illiberal when it comes to extending tolerance to those who disagree with them. The right talks the talk on freedom, but prefers to focus on religious freedom instead of seeing the bigger picture that freedom is freedom whether or not it has anything to do with religion. Both left and right are willing to throw liberty under the bus if the state has a compelling interest in taking away this or that freedom. And, of course, it is the state itself that decides whether the state has a compelling interest or not. How far we have fallen since 1776, when Jefferson opined about inalienable rights and the role of government being to secure these rights. Nowhere in the Declaration is King George allowed to violate the liberties of Americans based on his own compelling interest.
Even the word compelling suggests compulsion which is the antithesis of liberty. This kind of language is indicative of the controlling and tyrannical tendency of government by its very nature: a nature our forefathers sought to curtail through conscious limitation, institutional distrust, and eternal vigilance. Sad to say, the fact that were even having this discussion in the United States is indicative of our own failure to uphold the very principles of liberty and independence our ancestors attempted to secure for us, their posterity.
And yet, even in its weakness (which seems to approach mortality in many cases), the ideal of freedom refuses to be snuffed out entirely. It lives in the hearts and minds of men who are not afraid to challenge the assertions of the ruling mob, whether personified by an elephant or by a donkey, by a red star or by a twisted cross.
I dont believe in religious freedom. I believe in freedom. Including freedom for people to associate with others or not, to conduct business or not, in accordance with their religion, or lack of religion.
Maybe instead of Religious Freedom Restoration Acts, we should have Freedom Restoration Acts.
Elite liberals are opening the country's doors for radical Muslims... maybe they're hoping they'll behead Christians here too.
“Republicans can’t articulate this, but one conservative can and does. His name is Ted Cruz. “
Cruz may be the only TRUE conservative we have who has any guts. MHO.
As long as the referenced article is, there is no mention of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment in it.
14th Amendment, Section 1:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Note that the privileges or immunities term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.
Only if we allow ourselves to be driven in the closet. The same is true about political correctness. I recognized that I was weak in the past and did not stand up for my faith or beliefs and I allowed liberals/progressives to drive me in the closet. Perhaps I am a point in my life that I don't give a damn, but I now regularly profess my faith and express my beliefs.
It is amazing how you discover like-minded people when you do that.
Bottom-line: Don't allow yourself to be driven in the closet. Have a backbone and standup for your faith and beliefs.
Texas has this law and no one has freaked out....yet.
Excellent analysis and prescription- except for this line. Moslems have the same desire to destroy Christianity as the Left does. They are not allies in any way shape or form with Christians or Jews or with Buddhists or Hindus or Yazidis or anyone else who is not of their particular form of Islam or, ultimately, a member of their particular clan group.
There is blood in the water and the sharks will go on a rampage. Be interesting to see if other states will be targeted.
I can’t remember exactly, but I read that 19 or so other states have this law already....and I think the “backlash” of this will be that more will in the future. Like Arkansas did just in the past few days!
I think the lesson is, load for bear before you go hunting for bear. Otherwise he will snap your popgun in two and eat you for lunch.
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