Posted on 03/23/2015 7:54:24 AM PDT by Kaled
Conservatives often find themselves at odds with the libertarian crowd. However, is that anger really warranted?
As President Reagan once said, “If you analyze it, I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.”
True conservatives and libertarians, let’s not pretend there aren’t fakers on both side, all agree on the fundamentals: limited government, personal responsibility, and economic freedom. Neither group wants the government interfering in our daily lives and telling us what we can and cannot do. Now there may be slight disagreements on how that plays out in the policy arena, but we should not allow that to stop us from working together.
Our primary focus needs to be on reigning in spending, and returning power to the states where it belongs. The government has overreached time after time with blatant disregard for the boundaries set forth in the constitution. It’s time for conservatives and libertarians to put aside our differences, and work together.
As Morton Blackwell, President of the Leadership Institute, says, “You owe it to your philosophy to study how to win. You have a moral obligation to learn how to win.”
When are we going to realize that what we are doing isn’t working? We are going to keep losing elections until we get this right, and America will pay the price.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists][Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
How about Libertarians stop acting like doped up Leftists.
Conservatives don't conform to obscure memo of the day ideology, we are
the Constitutionalists and Patriotic
Americans in the USA.
Er, what's your point? Are you trying to say that Cliven Bundy's racist rant is inoffensive?
When one drags an excerpt of Pres. Regan’s 1975 interview with Reason Magazine into the argument in a weak attempt to show Reagan was a liberal or had sympathies towards the social liberals, then one thing is clear. This is total BS.
Jackie here sounds like a losertarian trying to garner support for her loser ideals.
ILLEGAL immigration, asshole!
How the hell are we supposed to "reason" with people like this?
Libertarians have a hard time staying on their own reservation. They want legalized dope and prostitution but they justify it with high taxes. They are also quick to ignore the slow prohibition of tobacco and all other government intrusion that should get their blood boiling. Instead they fixate on “sin” issues.
They live in a dream world where they never have to grow up and legislate.
A quote taken from an interview that candidate Reagan gave libertarians in 1975.
A quote where Reagan typically made his opening statements to win over the audience with that quote that you obviously misunderstood, and then he proceeded to explain why he is a conservative and social conservative, and not a libertarian.
Paul is weak on issues like abortion, gay marriage, and social conservatism in general.
He calls for the GOP to “evolve” and become more liberal/libertarian on them.
Only if the libertarians stop trying to inflict their utopia on the rest of us, stop destroying Republican clubs, stop trying to take over state parties, stop trying to game the system, and learn that part of the pie is better than no pie at all, deal?
Keep in mind - conservatives and libertarians are two different breeds of cat. While superficially they appear to support similar agendas, they come from two different perspectives, and that makes for some distortion when the two are conflated.
Conservatives are fond of quoting the “old sources”, returning to the original meanings of the words as used in centuries past, in contrast with the liberal or progressive point of view, who believe they are being “modern” in adapting and redefining terms to suit their immediate objectives. There is no such thing like a final or ultimate state at which they are directed. When things are too slow, they invite turmoil and chaos, and if things lurch out of control, they inevitably blame most anything but their own mistaken policies.
A libertarian, on the other hand, just does not involve himself (or herself) with the unrest of the moment, they build their own little fortress in the stream, just letting it slide around, and plucking what they need from the passing flood. They just do not want to get sucked into the torrent. Most of their philosophy is summed up as “Leave me alone!”, the least government being the best government.
Not Libertarian, Not Republican and Not Conservative.
I joined the Modern Whig party about 18 months ago.
It’s mostly veterans right now.
And I love my country far too much to ever, under any circumstances, vote for Rand Paul. Its not happening, I will vote for my cat first!
I agree it’s time we put aside our differences and get fully behind Jeb Bush.
As long as libertarians remain pro-fag marriage, pro-dope, and pro-open borders, I’ll continue to view them with the same contemptuous stinkeye that I give lefty Dems.
Unite behind whom? Paul or Cruz?
I always considered myself both. I never thought there was a disconnect between the two until I started hearing about it ad nauseam here on FR.
If libertarians and conservatives united around the 80% or so we agree upon and focus on that agenda, we’d probably be unstoppable.
The problem is, the remaining 20% is where most of the emotion is.
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