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Obama issues 'executive orders by another name (Why Obama didn't issue EO)
USA Today (see link) ^ | 17 Dec 2014 | Gregory Korte

Posted on 02/19/2015 3:44:22 AM PST by 11th_VA

Executive orders are numbered; memoranda are not. Memoranda are always published in the Federal Register after proclamations and executive orders. And under Executive Order 11030, signed by President Kennedy in 1962, an executive order must contain a "citation of authority," saying what law it's based on. Memoranda have no such requirement.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/

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KEYWORDS: amnesty; eo; executiveorder; liar; memo; memoranda; memos; obama; obamamemo; obamamemoranda; thief
This is the crux of how this President has been operating - he claims he hasn't issued many EOs, but has issued dozens more memos because he has no legal authority.

And in the case of this action, he even had a Faux signing ceremony to get the press and public to believe he had authority ...

1 posted on 02/19/2015 3:44:22 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
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2 posted on 02/19/2015 3:47:30 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: InterceptPoint

And the reason they won’t try and get an ‘emergency request’ to stop the judges action is - they know the law is against them.


3 posted on 02/19/2015 3:54:10 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
This memoranda scheme is the functional equivalent of the hundreds of "present" votes he cast while a flunky state senator. Simply a means to keep from getting entangled with the repercussions of a vote (or act, in this case).

With an Executive Order, as the article correctly states, the President must cite an established law upon which the EO is based, and to what effect the EO complements or facilitates. This scheme is a smoke and mirrors thing, and he is relying on the fact that the GOP or the states won't legally challenge him. If they were EO's he could definitely be proven impeachable because there are no laws these screeds supplement or clarify. With memoranda, the worst that can be practicably done is to condemn him as a partisan. He's gotten away with it for 6 years so why would he stop?

He's been given reason to stop now with the Federal Judge ruling. It's the reason why they won't ask for a temporary injunction. He'll wait and take the credit while casting blame on Republicans and Hispanics will eat it up like slop.

This isn't to say Republicans should stop. If anything they HAVE to press on. If they don't and give into amnesty, we will be certifiably undone.

4 posted on 02/19/2015 3:58:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 11th_VA

His Royal Highness continues to confuse the role of president with that of emperor.


5 posted on 02/19/2015 4:05:37 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Gaffer

If nothing else motivates the GOPe, it should at least be the realization that if this Amnesty non-E. O. goes into effect, there will be so many new Dims that their party will never be in control of anything again for decades!


6 posted on 02/19/2015 4:07:07 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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BACKSTORY In a major suck-up to illegals, Obama "announced" he was issuing
an E/O and planned a "signing ceremony" at a Las Vegas gathering of illegals.

E/O and signing ceremony never happened. Obama was photoed signing "memos" on AF One---not an "executive action." Why? B/c an E/O comes w/ legal baggage that the conniving Boobamba wanted to evade. Both "memos" are now on the Whitehouse website.

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The first of Obama's presidential action memos is entitled: “Creating Welcoming Communities Fully Integrating Immigrants and Refugees,” filed Nov. 26 in the Federal Register at Vol. 79, No. 228, (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-11-26/html/2014-28191.htm).

In the category “Presidential Documents” at page 70769, Obama ordered a White House Task Force on New Americans to “engage with community, business, and faith leaders, as well as State and local elected officials.” The task force is designed to “help determine additional steps the Federal Government can take to ensure its programs and policies are serving diverse communities that include new Americans.”

The second of the presidential actions entitled, “Modernizing and Streamlining the U.S. Immigration Visa System for the 21st Century,” filed Nov. 26 in the Federal Register at Vol. 79, No. 228, in the category “Presidential Documents” at page 70765 (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-11-26/html/2014-28191.htm).

This empowered the secretaries of State and Homeland Security, in consultation with the director of the Office of Management and Budget, the director of the National Economic Council, the assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, the director of the Domestic Policy Council, the director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, the attorney general, and the secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Labor and Education.

The order was to make a series of recommendations “to reduce government costs, improve services for applicants, reduce burdens on employers, and combat waste, fraud, and abuse in the system” of issuing immigrant and non-immigrant visas.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/amnesty-shocker-the-secret-behind-obamas-order/#4OPdzIoJFRwXopUU.99

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The scam works this way: signed Boobamba memos "delegate" to federal agencies orders to come up with plans (that must advance Boobamba's global conspiracy to overthrow the US govt w/ Third World federales and their cadres jumping the US border).

The federal agencies then "invent" Committees to do this (the better to overthrow the US govt). Then "Administrative Rules," after a comment period, will be published in the "Code of Federal Regulations," which magically turns them into law........ using federal fairy dust.

So Boobamba is shielded from responsibility---he doesn't have to take the hit. Behind closed doors, he tells federal factotums what he wants.....and faster than you can say "the combo plate w/ extra hot sauce".....the overthrow of the US govt commences.

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THE "DELEGATION" HORROR STORY--A Federal agency MO since 1946. It's down to a science: (1) publish a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), (2) make the comment period really short, (3) stonewall any negative comments, and, (4) publish the rule, which (5) NOW has the force of US law. No Congressman was ever involved, and Boobamba doesn't leave his DNA on it. Yet again, why "Delegation" is ominous for liberty---why the writing of administrative law by federal agencies - is un- Constitutional (hat tip to FReeper Regulator.)

7 posted on 02/19/2015 4:23:52 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

_Residential Sticky Notes.


8 posted on 02/19/2015 4:25:23 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 11th_VA

Just out of curiosity....how many E/O’s has he said that he’s done, and how many qualify as real E/O or these fake memo’s?

Someone out there has to be a wizard with the Gov’t Archives, and know the precise number.

If he’s only done five or six E/O’s since 2008...then it’s mostly a joke.


9 posted on 02/19/2015 4:46:03 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: milagro
If nothing else motivates the GOPe, it should at least be the realization that if this Amnesty non-E. O. goes into effect, there will be so many new Dims that their party will never be in control of anything again for decades!

But their pools and lawns will be in really good shape!

10 posted on 02/19/2015 4:53:45 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: milagro

I hope it somehow motivates them to do what most Americans want done, too. But over the last 15 years I’ve come to the personal realization that the GOP (the elite GOP) and Republican leadership (most) are entirely comfortable with being the loyal (but-not-too-vocal) opposition.

In short, they’re happy being second-tier representation - as long as they can keep personal power, bask in the limelight of pandering DC and media utopia, and only have to go home once a year to lie and 2 or 6 years to lie a bunch about what they did and will do.

They simply do not know how to govern, they cannot stand up for our rights, and they succumb too easily to big donors who’d sell their mother if it meant and extra buck on the bottom line. You can see it in nearly all of their “Constituent Outreach” cards and emails. Lies.


11 posted on 02/19/2015 4:59:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: pepsionice

The exact numbers are in the article, and gets to the crux of all this subterfuge. Obama hasn’t issued that many EOs (WH talking point) but his use of memos is greater than any other President - 45% more than Clinton.


12 posted on 02/19/2015 5:02:05 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: Gaffer
If they were EO's he could definitely be proven impeachable because there are no laws these screeds supplement or clarify. With memoranda, the worst that can be practicably done is to condemn him as a partisan. He's gotten away with it for 6 years so why would he stop?

Exactly - your quote should be published in a future history book.

13 posted on 02/19/2015 5:30:22 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: pepsionice

Note how many 'Memos' Obama has issued compared to his predecessors. At least Truman had to cite law for his EOs - the Obama team doesn't bother to cite any laws.

14 posted on 02/19/2015 5:34:53 AM PST by 11th_VA
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Old news.


15 posted on 02/19/2015 5:45:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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he claims he hasn't issued many EOs, but has issued dozens more memos because he has no legal authority. And in the case of this action, he even had a Faux signing ceremony to get the press and public to believe he had authority

16 posted on 02/19/2015 5:48:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I never understood what was behind this 'head fake' still researching.

It appears from the 'Federal Register' web site, several memo's were issued and published regarding the Immigration changes, but it is specifically noted in Here:

"Note that the November 21 Presidential Memorandum, and this RFI, are not focused on potential Federal Government actions that were announced as part of the President's Immigration Accountability Executive Actions of November 20. Rather, this RFI seeks recommendations on improving and modernizing the legal immigration system in other ways.

This is how they attempted to get around the whole comment period required for Executive Memos; Tell everyone you issued a Executive Memo, but never publish it in the 'Federal Register' so no one can comment on the actions.

17 posted on 02/19/2015 6:03:19 AM PST by 11th_VA
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