Posted on 12/09/2014 8:45:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Went thru the article. They deprived sleep and waterboarded. Didn’t see any real torture mentioned.
It needed to come out. It would have been held over people’s heads forever. Now it is out and we can go on with life. I like the fact that the President and Kerry BEGGED Congress not to release it but they told them to pound sand and released it anyway. I am thrilled about it actually. Even Democratic Senators don’t listen to the President or Secretary of State.
“Why make enemies of the CIA? That action is full of unintended consequences.”
Because releasing this report TODAY, much of which is old news, distracts from the Gruber Confession hearings, which is much more damaging to the Democrats.
DUH...
Tonight’s Alphabet Network headlines, the Daily Show, and the Late-Night Comics will be ALL about torture, and Gruber WILL NOT BE COVERED AT ALL, or barely mentioned.
Just watch how this plays out.
McCain is a brain addled senile old fool who gets worse with each passing day. It doesn’t diminish one iota the treason of the Democrats. McCain’s disgrace is that he aids and abets it, rendering him complicit in it.
How many times have you been waterboarded?
SERE schools have used this several times and in several ways to prepare our soldiers for possible capture. It produces huge amounts of fear and alarm, but does not cause any real physical damage. By doing it to OUR soldiers, once it has been done several times, it starts to lose it’s efficacy.
There is a difference about being informed, and actually knowing. So, who “informed” you that it was torture?
You? Do you have some basis of knowledge in this subject?
Even in SERE its application is not and was not widespread. All Service SERE programs except Warner Springs discontinued it's use in training in the 90's. Even then only 2-3 people per 60-man class were boarded and maybe 1 of 10 who were boarded were not allowed to capitulate.
Like me.
There are DOZENS of folks, the test subjects who helped develop the CIA program, who are now on a VA disability as a result.
I would not be surprised if some of those who applied it to their fellow service members are also suffering PTSD over it.
That said, I would have personally waterboarded several of the "detainees" after 911.
This regime is about payback and sucking the oxygen from other scandals.
1- payback:
This hearing is Feinstein’s payback to the CIA for spying on her staff computers. The CIA apologized but wasn’t good enough for her!
2- sucking the oxygen from the Gruber hearing in the house:
Elijah Commings was “late” to attend and only appeared when Gruber was about to testify and get grilled with all the coverage he would have gotten. Commings came in and delivered his statement and delayed Gruber’s, just about the time that Feinstein started her entrance and long speech.
It’s a very well choreographed obfuscation that gives 0b0z0’s media something to hang their hats on.
The media couldn’t be happier to attack the loathed American security agencies, the military and the Bush administration, rather than having to “report” on the regime’s lies about 0b0z0Kare!
Can’t get better than that.
Whatever you do, don’t switch on FNC. Shep is crying through his mascara at the horrible treatment of captured enemies.
My apologies.
The late 60’s to the early 80’s was the worst for the Warner Springs SERE course. I was involved with the School of the Americas course and the British/Dutch course in Germany during the mid 80’s.
They did not go through nearly the crap that the Warner Springs people did. The British and Dutch were very heavily involved in dogs and white noise, psychological methods, although some of the physical abuse was epic. Being drug behind a deuce and a half through cold mud and rain in Europe during the winter was rough.
If you say it is torture, I will not argue with you. I have not ever seen the specific Khmer Rouge style, but there are differences in what the US did and what occurred in the school and in Vietnam.
Folks like Ollie North go on TV and trivialize the procedure, not only to protect America, but to protect themselves.
After all, IF it's ever adjudicated as torture, all who have employed it...in training or in operations...are subject to prosecution under Federal Statutes.
The minimum sentence is like 10- years in a Fed Penitentiary.
Democrats hate America and want its citizens to die.
Releasing the CIA report will have the same effect on our national enemies as a Grand Jury decision on citizens. I wonder if the percentages are the same and if they are recruited in the same way?
But really. Am I supposed to be mad at the CIA for doing this to get information from people who were planning to kill us?
And Arizona, choose better next time.
Dennis Prager: Nine Questions the Left Needs to Answer About Torture
townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2009 | Dennis Prager
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:20:48 AM by kellynla
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