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Teen Spends Years At Rikers Island Without Being Sentenced
NPR ^ | Oct. 2, 2014

Posted on 10/31/2014 10:44:37 PM PDT by heartwood

Jennifer Gonnerman: "One night in the spring of 2010, Kalief [Browder] and a friend walking home late from a party in the Bronx, walking down the street and a police car pulled them over. A cop got out and said that a man in the back of his police car had accused Kalief and his friend of robbing him. And Kalief protested that he was innocent. There was nothing found in his pockets or his friends pockets, but they took them into the precinct, into to the station house anyway. Kalief thought it was a misunderstanding that might take an hour or two to clear up, but that's not what happened. He ended up spending three years in jail [without trial]

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
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Kalief Browder was not a "good kid." There was a prior offense so bail was set at $3000, which he didn't have. Fine, you might say. But he was kept in jail without trial for three years because of prosecutorial ineptitude/abuse and a dysfunctional court system. The complainant changed his story several times, couldn't keep straight the time of the alleged robbery, and eventually went home to Mexico, and the prosecution dismissed the case, after Browder had spent a good deal more time in jail than than a robbery sentence entail. Further, Browder refused to plead guilty on multiple occasions when it would have led to release.

In NY a defendant has the right to a speedy trial within six months. However court delays do not count towards that time. So if the prosecution asks for a one week delay, or one day, and the court takes six to twelve weeks to schedule a new hearing, only the one week, or day, counts towards the six months. And the prosecution appears to have asked for a dozen delays without reprimand.

The interviewee writes a better version of the story in the New Yorker but we can't post from there.

Browder is suing for $20M, and if I were a NYC juror and taxpayer, I'd give him a decent fraction of that, but it really ought to come out of prosecutorial hide.

1 posted on 10/31/2014 10:44:37 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

I’d give him every dime he asked for. The public won’t care till it hurts. We’re the ultimate employers for public workers.

I don’t care what his prior record was. He was innocent till proven guilty. Not stick him in prison and forget about him.

Fire the prosecutor and raise taxes. Eventually, the people will demand better.


2 posted on 10/31/2014 10:54:43 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: null and void

Ping!


3 posted on 10/31/2014 10:58:20 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Clappin' the Blues (remix)" [slightly NSFW] - http://youtu.be/p9d2iHSfRmE)
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To: heartwood

Something over 90%, perhaps more than 95%, of criminal cases are handled via plea bargains. Which don’t require prosecutors to do anything difficult or stressful.

So obviously they have an incentive to make an example of those who refuse to go along. Guilt, innocence and the Constitution be damned.

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed”

Nothing I can see in there about using anything other than the calendar everybody else uses. If a state, with all its resources, cannot be ready for trial in six months from the date of arrest, drop the charges.

It also seems pretty obvious to me that in practice the 90% or 95% or more of cases that end in plea bargains have de facto repealed 6A.


4 posted on 10/31/2014 11:09:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: heartwood

I think he deserved a decent payout for his unfortunate experience. He may have been a petty criminal involved in relatively minor hijinks, but he, as far as anybody knows, was not a murderer and he didn’t assault anybody.

It’s terrible that the prosecutor was able to keep him in prison well beyond the penalty of the original crime and could have potentially kept him in prison for life by always “losing” the paperwork.

I agree that there should no tolerance of prosecutors who do these things.


5 posted on 10/31/2014 11:14:39 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: heartwood

question, where were his lawyers? who were the prosecutors in charge of his case? They deserve to be fired.


6 posted on 10/31/2014 11:21:25 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: heartwood

Why do all these incidents always seem to happen in states where the Rats are in power?


7 posted on 10/31/2014 11:22:56 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Bronx courts handled about 4160 felony cases in one of the years Browder was jailed. Just about 4000 were plea-bargained.

One judge hired for the purpose managed to close 1000 cases. “At the start of 2013, there were nine hundred and fifty-two felony cases in the Bronx, including Browder’s, that were more than two years old. In the next twelve months, DiMango disposed of a thousand cases, some as old as five years.” (New Yorker, Oct. 6, 2014)


8 posted on 10/31/2014 11:25:13 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: mountainbunny

the money should come from the pockets and retirement accounts of NY public servants


9 posted on 10/31/2014 11:29:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RginTN

His defense lawyers were public defenders who do not have the equivalent power the prosecutors do to bring a case to a close.

By the story, the prosecutor was able to keep the case on going by telling a judge that the paperwork wasn’t complete at that point and requested a delay.

The defenders have no power in forcing prosecutors to complete the paperwork.


10 posted on 10/31/2014 11:35:49 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: heartwood

Kind of makes my point.

This judge closed 20 cases a week, or, presumably 4 per day on average. One every two hours. That’s not unreasonable for traffic court. For felony cases, not so much.

Without most if not all of those being plea bargained, the system would collapse. But such a system quite obviously cares little about guilt or innocence. It is, by necessity, desperately focused on productivity.


11 posted on 10/31/2014 11:43:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Jonty30

If the dog ate their homework, sorry. Get rid of the dog.


12 posted on 10/31/2014 11:44:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sherman Logan

It is widely protested that the incarceration rate of the States is far higher than the rest of the world’s. This kind of sausage justice can’t make the picture look any prettier.


13 posted on 10/31/2014 11:46:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

For these rates to look reasonable, one would have to assume the cops and prosecutors just don’t make mistakes.

The US Department of Justice reported a 97% conviction rate in federal courts for 2012.

To a reasonable person that makes their title an oxymoron. I’d be much happier with a 75% conviction rate.

Come to think of it, why bother hiring an attorney if you’re to be tried in federal court?


14 posted on 10/31/2014 11:50:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

A case dropped in mid trial, would it count in calculating that percentage?


15 posted on 10/31/2014 11:53:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I have no idea. As is traditional, I grabbed a statistic off Wiki.

The traditional approach by federal prosecutors, I believe, is to greatly overcharge and then grudgingly agree to a more reasonable plea bargain, accepted by the accused who is still in shock from the initial charges.


16 posted on 10/31/2014 11:56:33 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Pushing something to mid trial and backing out at that point wouldn’t count, I’d think. I.e. if the prosecution can actually see that it is in trouble. It’s trials that reach verdicts that would count.


17 posted on 10/31/2014 11:59:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: heartwood; All
hope he wins his lawsuit, take any pmt. out of the incompetent DA dept. retirement accounts.
pay the guy 6$ mil. (full $$$,fed/sta/irs_tax-free) and a free ticket anywhere in the USA
and redacted crim. record.

18 posted on 11/01/2014 1:06:53 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Liberalism to Fabianism to Socialism to Marxism to Totalitarianism.. "the inertia of stupidity" d8-)
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To: heartwood

16 posts and no torches and pitchforks yet

I’m surprised.


19 posted on 11/01/2014 1:09:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (todays republicans are worse than reconstruction era.....and that takes effort)
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To: heartwood
So he's suing NYC and he will win a hefty settlement (one hopes) of some sort. The big deal here is twofold: 1) how does he get three years of his life back that were taken from him by the state and 2) how does he get his reputation back? In most cases the official record will show he was arrested but it will NOT show he was innocent of all charges because none were brought. The case was dismissed so, if that's true, why did he spend three years in jail? This F-up will dog him for the rest of his life.
20 posted on 11/01/2014 2:48:33 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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