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Is the universe a bubble? Let's check: Making the multiverse hypothesis testable
Science Daily ^ | 17 JUL 2014 | Johnson, et al

Posted on 07/19/2014 9:37:03 AM PDT by onedoug

Scientists are working to bring the multiverse hypothesis, which to some sounds like a fanciful tale, firmly into the realm of testable science. Never mind the Big Bang; in the beginning was the vacuum. The vacuum simmered with energy (variously called dark energy, vacuum energy, the inflation field, or the Higgs field). Like water in a pot, this high energy began to evaporate -- bubbles formed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fauxiantrolls; god; mtheory; multiverse; science; stringtheory
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To: onedoug

Thank you for posting this thread.

It is a welcome relief from all the politics.


21 posted on 07/19/2014 7:41:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: onedoug

22 posted on 07/19/2014 7:46:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: I want the USA back

Okay, smarty pants- give us a clue; as to the start, end or in between. Thanks.


23 posted on 07/19/2014 8:05:11 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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doesn’t deserve an answer.

Sure it does. Everything deserves an answer.

The answer is... none of the theories are correct.

24 posted on 07/19/2014 9:49:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: onedoug; I want the USA back; ETL 2; Yollopoliuhqui; SunkenCiv; TXnMA; UCANSEE2
from the article: "Proponents of the multiverse theory argue that it's the next logical step in the inflation story.
Detractors argue that it is not physics, but metaphysics -- that it is not science because it cannot be tested."

Bingo!
We have a winner!

We cannot blame people for becoming confused about differences between scientific "fact" versus "law" versus "theory" versus "hypothesis" versus "S.W.A.G."*, when those are not clearly pointed out by most popular science reporters.

But ALL this multiverse-inflation bed-time story is at best SWAG, hoping desperately to become a respected, testable hypothesis.
Of course, there's no problem with that -- everyone loves a good bed-time story, but let us not confuse ourselves into thinking there's something more to it.
There's not. Yet.

*SWAG = scientific wild *ssed guess

25 posted on 07/20/2014 6:06:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: onedoug

thanks


26 posted on 07/20/2014 6:26:55 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: UCANSEE2

Thank you. That’s what I was thinking.


27 posted on 07/20/2014 6:35:36 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: I want the USA back
There is nothing in a perfect vacuum. So there can not be any energy in a perfect vacuum.

So your very first assertion is WRONG. Obviously you've never studied quantum mechanics. There is no such thing as a perfect vacuum because of virtual particles. Heisenberg's uncertainty theorem gives us the mechanism by which we can understand why particles are constantly appearing and annihilating each other, even in what should be a "perfect" vacuum. This behavior is well documented and well known (and serves as the basis of other well-known cosmological theories like Hawking Radiation from black holes). So it's obvious that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. And that's just from the first assertion you gave...

28 posted on 07/20/2014 7:25:38 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: TXnMA

Thanks for the heads up!


29 posted on 07/20/2014 10:09:37 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve got to remember to ping you to such stuff.

Thanks.


30 posted on 07/20/2014 12:55:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BroJoeK

The beauty in M-Theory is that reduces, naturally, to general relativity in the mathematical limit of everyday experience.

No other theoretical framework has ever wedded GR to the quantum realm so well. It is this that drives whole careers into M-Theory.

As more refinement is teased from the results so far at CERN’s big ring particle collider, particularly the almost certainty in having observed the Higgs boson, we’ll obtain more and more information about matter and energy’s sub-structure.

As there is no ‘ad hoc’ objection to the physics yet therein, it seems to me that at least some physicists and mathematicians should look into it.

Yes, even at the risk of their careers.


31 posted on 07/20/2014 6:13:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: I want the USA back

There is nothing in a perfect vacuum. So there can not be any energy in a perfect vacuum.

Actually, you are wrong about that. The vacuum is the most massive and energetic object in the Universe.


32 posted on 07/20/2014 6:35:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: onedoug

Thanks, I’d like that.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 5:27:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BroJoeK

Thanks Bro’!


34 posted on 07/21/2014 7:24:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Moonman62
The vacuum is the most massive and energetic object in the Universe.


35 posted on 07/21/2014 11:59:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Moonman62

Can bubbles ‘form’ in a vacuum ?


36 posted on 07/21/2014 12:00:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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