Skip to comments.Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos
Posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
In the absence of effective military forces or law enforcement, Ukrainians are taking the defense of the nation in their own hands through loosely organized militias.
One of them popped up in a YouTube video on May 2.
Although the group was unidentified, the clip was posted by a pro-Ukrainian group of former military and law enforcement officers, calling themselves the Donbass Volunteer Battalion. The video shows men armed with Kalashnikov rifles and clad in black ninja outfits dismantling a Kremlin-backed roadblock near Krasnoarmiysk in western Donetsk Oblast.
The national warriors also claim that 15 pro-Russian rebels were handed over to the police and that three Kalashnikovs were recovered.
The groups leader, Semyon Semenchenko, wrote on his Facebook page that the group is taking up arms and structuring like the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, the World War II era partisan group that fought both Nazi Germany and Soviet NKVD units in a futile attempt to gain national independence for Ukraine.
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It's good to be cautious about news from them parts.
there’s a lesson to be learned here
This almost sounds familiar:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It would either be a good start or a last stand.
Either way—see you there!
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
Militias will worry the Russians more than any regular Ukrainian army unit. They know the land, the people, they won’t fight by any rules, and they won’t be accountable to anyone. This is the best and worst thing that could happen.
Given the media here, it would likely read, "Right-wing hate groups form militias to throw nation into chaos."
But, yes. Your point is a possible future scenario.
Yes, "genuine, civilized patriots " just like their Galicia Waffen SS grandfathers who murdered hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles and Russians.
The handiwork of genuine civilized Ukrainian patriots in Odessa, May 2nd.
Strangled cleaning lady whose screams for help are recorded:
Ukrainian Nazi version of "civilized":
A boy and girl murdered by "genuine Ukrainian patriots":
Perhaps up to 300 civilians were murdered in Odessa May 2nd by Ukrainian Nazi Right Sector and their NATO instructors. Murderers you call genuine patriots.
That's kind of "civilized" U.S. and EU support in Ukraine as we speak.
Those who lost their lives fighting against Nazism are spinning in their graves !
Agitprop lives on FR
One thing I'm certain of, the US need to stay away from there if we can.
As well as Nazi revisionism and denial !
WW2 ended a while back. The topic is now defense of a sovereign nation against an invader.
Killing has a tendency to feed on itself.
My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people. I hope the good guys win, whoever they are.
Too late. U.S. is leading the show over there. Graystone, acronym agencies, they are already on the ground.
The objective: mass murder Russian civilians in Ukraine to poke the Bear to intervene.
So far the Bear is reluctant...but might bite where not expected.
U.S.-sponsored AQ in Syria is fleeing Homs...
Where they will go?
That's a false accusation. I said I hoped they would be both civilized and patriots.
I don't know who the hell those folks are.
Mass murder Russians? You mean foreign invaders? Or maybe these are Russian forces murdering Ukrainians because they can use chaos to pretend that a secessionist vote passed there too?
. Remember Victoria Nuland's "F' the EU" battle cry?
The Invaders are Neocons who toppled Ukraininian government, installed Neo Nazi thugs in hope to foment the war in Europe.
You are insane. Russia is gobbling up countries rebuilding the USSR. Babbling about neocons installing nazis to power and pretending that a faction that won less than 10% of the vote is running around murdering at random is crazy.
Kievan Rus is the heart of Russia.
Western Ukraine is Polish land, and it was until 1939.
Calling Ukrainian citizens of other ethnic extraction "invaders" is shameful. It borders on Nazism.
Check the history books. It ain't pretty.
Nice to know which side you will be on when the reconquista comes to the southwest US
I did not say the other ethnicities were invaders, but judging how YOU are the one who considers them to be Russian and not Ukrainian isn’t that what you are doing?
Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.
You need this to wash the foul words...
Over 80% of people in Ukraine self identify as being ethnic Ukrainian.
And there is so much more wrong with your posts.
Russia needs that chaos. If the Ukrainians bring any semblance of normality back, watch for Russia to push it back into chaos
How do we know they weren’t killed by Russia?
USSR was built by Wall-street sponsored Communist thugs. Tens of millions of Russians were murdered. Rusian land was cut into "republics" and Russian people found themselves divided. When USSR got dissolved some 70 years later, millions of Russians found themselves overnight in hostile foreign lands. Even if they were loyal citizens, their human rights were denied.
from this vantage point, the hatred of Russians had nothing to do with the hatred of Communism. It is religious hatred, aimed at annihilating Russians as an ethic group.
The fact that "democratic" EU and U.S. supports the worst scum is an evidence to this claim.
Wall-street created communist Russia? Wow.
How about Occam razor?
Right sector was in Odessa, May 2nd.
Right Sector thugs are Caught on "tape".
Odessa is far away from Russian border.
American and Eu MSM keep mum about this genocidal crime.
What is more likely, Right sector murdering off up to 300 Ukrainian citizens who opposed Nazi junta or "Russia"?
The genocidal crime was hushed up by Kiev junta.
If there were grounds to accuse "Russia", how likely is that Kiev Nazi junta and NAT0-controlled media would keep silent?
Russian FM is on record claiming that the perps of this crime will not escape. How likely is that he would raise this issue if "Russia" was the perp?
The Russians and the Germans each killed millions of Ukrainians. Even if these armed separatists were added to the toll of Russians wrongfully killed by Ukrainians, they are a rounding error of a rounding error, as a % of the millions of Ukrainians deliberately killed by Russians.
If you do not have command of the facts about the events in 1917 that are historical record, you are not qualified to discuss current events that are still fluid.
Ignorance is an ailment that could be cured by learning.
What you wrote here is really sick. You advocate genocide against an identifiable ethic group "as such".
The Nazis killed 3 million ethnic Ukrainians during WWII as part Generalplan Ost.
Pretty sick stuff.
Yet you seem to ignore all that history.
The deaths of a few dozen people in a building fire at the end of a running street battle in which Ukrainians are killed by gunfire from some of the people in the building = genocide? The deliberate mass starvation of millions of Ukrainians by Russians during the Holodomor was a genocide. The mass killings of millions of civilians (Poles and Ukrainians and 1/2 of the world's Jews) by Germans was a genocide. The casualties of a running street battle are not a genocide.
Yet you seem to ignore all that history.<<<<<
I don't. Communists who invaded Russia in 1917 murdered tens of millions of Russians 1917-1940. Among the Politburo members there were almost no Russians. Stalin was Georgian.
Lazer Kaganovich, the man who masterminded Holodomor you mentioned was not an ethnic Russian. He murdered 6 million, just like Himmler.
Germans murdered 3 million in Ukraine. But there were Ukraininans who helped them murder fellow Ukrainians, ethnic Jews, Russians and Poles.
Galician Waffen SS is hailed by many in Western Ukraine for their crimes. Imagine hailing other Waffen SS in Germany or other Western European country, for now at least.
I recall the quip when Germans complained that Austrians want to depict Hitler as German and Bach as an Austrian.
Ditto here. Russians are accused for the crimes committed by the other ethnicities.
So, who is ignoring the history?
So, how exactly "Russians" deliberately starvated millions of Ukraininans (of whom many were actually ethnicRussians)?
You say: "The casualties of a running street battle are not a genocide.".
Well, US-NATO "justice" says otherwise. The casualties of Muslim fighters in Srebrenica were declared "Genocide" by U.S. sponsored ICTY kangaroo court.
If several thousand KIA combattants are genocide, several hundred unarmed civilians are genocide as well.
You can not have it both ways.
You actually think that Stalin acted alone? Of course he didn't.
So, who is ignoring the history?
You deserve Duranty Award for factual reporting.
No you deserve the Duranty Award for your denial that Russians were involved in the Holodomor.
Hitler was Austrian. Napoleon was Corsican. Did Kaganovich and Stalin give their orders in Hebrew and Georgian, respectively, in the name of Israel and Georgia? Who carried out their orders? Spare us the nonsense about Russian innocence. Ordinary Americans were horrified by the Waco massacre. Ordinary Russians exulted at the deaths of millions of Ukrainian "class enemies". Heck, like you, they still call them Nazis. Today's Russian attitudes are basically no different from that of Nazi Germany - the whole attitude is the Russian equivalent of Deutschland über alles, with Russia in the role of main victim, and bloody revenge and territorial conquest as the salve for mythical historical wrongs suffered by Russia, the largest empire in existence.
As to the pregnant woman killed...Kiev Gov.denied it even happened....But she was working over holiday cleaning offices, watering flowers etc.....She was strangled with an electric wire found on the floor next to her body, and flower pot toppled near her body.
Here is the video of her screams for help heard over the crowd
. .....Soon after a Yellow and blue flag was draped out the window next to hers, as the crowd below cheered.
Video of Pro-Kiev thugs beating people who jumped out burning Trade Union building in Odessa
Suspected killer of pregnant woman in Odessa, here ,same coat and hat...standing next to guy on the ground.
regurgitating Russian propaganda is not performance art
better to trust neither side
God bless them!