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Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos
Kyiv Post ^ | May 7, 2014, 11:13 p.m. | Mark Rachkevych

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

In the absence of effective military forces or law enforcement, Ukrainians are taking the defense of the nation in their own hands through loosely organized militias.

One of them popped up in a YouTube video on May 2.

Although the group was unidentified, the clip was posted by a pro-Ukrainian group of former military and law enforcement officers, calling themselves the Donbass Volunteer Battalion. The video shows men armed with Kalashnikov rifles and clad in black ninja outfits dismantling a Kremlin-backed roadblock near Krasnoarmiysk in western Donetsk Oblast.

The national warriors also claim that 15 pro-Russian rebels were handed over to the police and that three Kalashnikovs were recovered.

The group’s leader, Semyon Semenchenko, wrote on his Facebook page that the group is “taking up arms and structuring like the Ukrainian Insurgent Army,” the World War II era partisan group that fought both Nazi Germany and Soviet NKVD units in a futile attempt to gain national independence for Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bandera; ftheeu; graystone; kiev; odessa; rightsector; russia; svoboda; ukraine
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Courtesy of BerlinFreeper. Ukrainians begin the process of organizing for guerrilla operations against Russian occupation troops.
1 posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
Well let's hope they're genuine, civilized patriots.

It's good to be cautious about news from them parts.

2 posted on 05/07/2014 6:25:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Zhang Fei

2A bump!


3 posted on 05/07/2014 6:26:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Zhang Fei

there’s a lesson to be learned here


4 posted on 05/07/2014 6:27:14 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Zhang Fei
Ukrainians Americans form militias to defend nation against chaos

Future headline?

5 posted on 05/07/2014 6:28:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Zhang Fei
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6 posted on 05/07/2014 6:29:48 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Ukrainians are taking the defense of the nation in their own hands through loosely organized militias . . . men armed with Kalashnikov rifles . . . taking up arms . . .

This almost sounds familiar:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

7 posted on 05/07/2014 6:30:06 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would either be a good start or a last stand.

Either way—see you there!


8 posted on 05/07/2014 6:31:57 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


9 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Militias will worry the Russians more than any regular Ukrainian army unit. They know the land, the people, they won’t fight by any rules, and they won’t be accountable to anyone. This is the best and worst thing that could happen.


10 posted on 05/07/2014 6:38:20 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Future headline?

Given the media here, it would likely read, "Right-wing hate groups form militias to throw nation into chaos."

But, yes. Your point is a possible future scenario.

11 posted on 05/07/2014 6:43:28 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Good. Sounds like they need more arms, though.

Georgia has some advice for Ukraine. What to Do When Russia Invades Your Land
12 posted on 05/07/2014 8:05:11 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Mariner
>>>>Well let's hope they're genuine, civilized patriots.>>>>

Yes, "genuine, civilized patriots " just like their Galicia Waffen SS grandfathers who murdered hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles and Russians.

The handiwork of genuine civilized Ukrainian patriots in Odessa, May 2nd.

Strangled cleaning lady whose screams for help are recorded:

Ukrainian Nazi version of "civilized":

A boy and girl murdered by "genuine Ukrainian patriots":

Perhaps up to 300 civilians were murdered in Odessa May 2nd by Ukrainian Nazi Right Sector and their NATO instructors. Murderers you call genuine patriots.

That's kind of "civilized" U.S. and EU support in Ukraine as we speak.

Those who lost their lives fighting against Nazism are spinning in their graves !

13 posted on 05/07/2014 8:19:01 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Agitprop lives on FR


14 posted on 05/07/2014 8:20:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DTA
Well, maybe those are the same folks and maybe they're not.

One thing I'm certain of, the US need to stay away from there if we can.

15 posted on 05/07/2014 8:21:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GeronL

As well as Nazi revisionism and denial !


16 posted on 05/07/2014 8:23:18 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

WW2 ended a while back. The topic is now defense of a sovereign nation against an invader.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 8:24:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DTA
Also there's no doubt Ukraine is the Big Show and Hell will be there shortly.

Killing has a tendency to feed on itself.

My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people. I hope the good guys win, whoever they are.

18 posted on 05/07/2014 8:30:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
>>>>>One thing I'm certain of, the US need to stay away from there if we can. >>>>>

Too late. U.S. is leading the show over there. Graystone, acronym agencies, they are already on the ground.

The objective: mass murder Russian civilians in Ukraine to poke the Bear to intervene.

So far the Bear is reluctant...but might bite where not expected.

U.S.-sponsored AQ in Syria is fleeing Homs...

Where they will go?

19 posted on 05/07/2014 8:30:26 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
" Murderers you call genuine patriots."

That's a false accusation. I said I hoped they would be both civilized and patriots.

I don't know who the hell those folks are.

20 posted on 05/07/2014 8:31:32 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DTA

Mass murder Russians? You mean foreign invaders? Or maybe these are Russian forces murdering Ukrainians because they can use chaos to pretend that a secessionist vote passed there too?


21 posted on 05/07/2014 8:33:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
>>>>> The topic is now defense of a sovereign nation against an invader.<<<<<

. Remember Victoria Nuland's "F' the EU" battle cry?

The Invaders are Neocons who toppled Ukraininian government, installed Neo Nazi thugs in hope to foment the war in Europe.

22 posted on 05/07/2014 8:34:36 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

You are insane. Russia is gobbling up countries rebuilding the USSR. Babbling about neocons installing nazis to power and pretending that a faction that won less than 10% of the vote is running around murdering at random is crazy.


23 posted on 05/07/2014 8:37:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
You play with words. "Ukraininian" is citizenship as well as ethnicity. There are many Ukraininan citizens who are not Ukrainians by ethnicity, they are Russians, Jews or Poles.Their ancestors lived in Ukraine before "Ukrainians" were invented as ethnicity.

Kievan Rus is the heart of Russia.

Western Ukraine is Polish land, and it was until 1939.

Calling Ukrainian citizens of other ethnic extraction "invaders" is shameful. It borders on Nazism.

Check the history books. It ain't pretty.

24 posted on 05/07/2014 8:42:00 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Nice to know which side you will be on when the reconquista comes to the southwest US


25 posted on 05/07/2014 8:44:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos


26 posted on 05/07/2014 8:47:08 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: DTA

I did not say the other ethnicities were invaders, but judging how YOU are the one who considers them to be Russian and not Ukrainian isn’t that what you are doing?


27 posted on 05/07/2014 8:48:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
>>>>>You are insane.....Babbling about neocons installing nazis to power and pretending that a faction that won less than 10% of the vote is running around murdering at random is crazy.<<<<<

Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.

You need this to wash the foul words...

28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:49:51 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Ukrainians" were invented as ethnicity.

Over 80% of people in Ukraine self identify as being ethnic Ukrainian.

And there is so much more wrong with your posts.

29 posted on 05/07/2014 8:50:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DTA

LoL


30 posted on 05/07/2014 8:51:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia needs that chaos. If the Ukrainians bring any semblance of normality back, watch for Russia to push it back into chaos


31 posted on 05/07/2014 8:54:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DTA

How do we know they weren’t killed by Russia?


32 posted on 05/07/2014 8:55:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
Imagine living in California and China installing Aztlan junta in power, outlawing English and calling all Californians of Anglo-Saxon extraction "invaders".

USSR was built by Wall-street sponsored Communist thugs. Tens of millions of Russians were murdered. Rusian land was cut into "republics" and Russian people found themselves divided. When USSR got dissolved some 70 years later, millions of Russians found themselves overnight in hostile foreign lands. Even if they were loyal citizens, their human rights were denied.

from this vantage point, the hatred of Russians had nothing to do with the hatred of Communism. It is religious hatred, aimed at annihilating Russians as an ethic group.

The fact that "democratic" EU and U.S. supports the worst scum is an evidence to this claim.

33 posted on 05/07/2014 8:59:23 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Wall-street created communist Russia? Wow.


34 posted on 05/07/2014 9:01:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
>>>>>How do we know they weren’t killed by Russia?<<<<

How about Occam razor?

Right sector was in Odessa, May 2nd.

Right Sector thugs are Caught on "tape".

Odessa is far away from Russian border.

American and Eu MSM keep mum about this genocidal crime.

What is more likely, Right sector murdering off up to 300 Ukrainian citizens who opposed Nazi junta or "Russia"?

The genocidal crime was hushed up by Kiev junta.

If there were grounds to accuse "Russia", how likely is that Kiev Nazi junta and NAT0-controlled media would keep silent?

Russian FM is on record claiming that the perps of this crime will not escape. How likely is that he would raise this issue if "Russia" was the perp?

35 posted on 05/07/2014 9:09:46 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.

The Russians and the Germans each killed millions of Ukrainians. Even if these armed separatists were added to the toll of Russians wrongfully killed by Ukrainians, they are a rounding error of a rounding error, as a % of the millions of Ukrainians deliberately killed by Russians.

36 posted on 05/07/2014 9:15:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: GeronL
>>>>Wall-street created communist Russia? Wow.<<<<

If you do not have command of the facts about the events in 1917 that are historical record, you are not qualified to discuss current events that are still fluid.

Ignorance is an ailment that could be cured by learning.

There is no excuse for ignorance in the age of Google.

37 posted on 05/07/2014 9:16:45 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Zhang Fei
>>>>>The Russians and the Germans each killed millions of Ukrainians. Even if these armed separatists were added to the toll of Russians wrongfully killed by Ukrainians, they are a rounding error of a rounding error, as a % of the millions of Ukrainians deliberately killed by Russians.<<<<

What you wrote here is really sick. You advocate genocide against an identifiable ethic group "as such".

38 posted on 05/07/2014 9:21:31 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Stalin starved to death 5 to 7 million ethnic Ukrainians on the 30's as part of the Holodomor.

The Nazis killed 3 million ethnic Ukrainians during WWII as part Generalplan Ost.

Pretty sick stuff.

Yet you seem to ignore all that history.

39 posted on 05/07/2014 9:37:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DTA
What you wrote here is really sick. You advocate genocide against an identifiable ethic group "as such".

The deaths of a few dozen people in a building fire at the end of a running street battle in which Ukrainians are killed by gunfire from some of the people in the building = genocide? The deliberate mass starvation of millions of Ukrainians by Russians during the Holodomor was a genocide. The mass killings of millions of civilians (Poles and Ukrainians and 1/2 of the world's Jews) by Germans was a genocide. The casualties of a running street battle are not a genocide.

40 posted on 05/07/2014 9:41:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: FreeReign
>>>>Stalin starved to death 5 to 7 million ethnic Ukrainians on the 30's as part of the Holodomor. The Nazis killed 3 million ethnic Ukrainians during WWII as part Generalplan Ost.Pretty sick stuff.

Yet you seem to ignore all that history.<<<<<

I don't. Communists who invaded Russia in 1917 murdered tens of millions of Russians 1917-1940. Among the Politburo members there were almost no Russians. Stalin was Georgian.

Lazer Kaganovich, the man who masterminded Holodomor you mentioned was not an ethnic Russian. He murdered 6 million, just like Himmler.

Germans murdered 3 million in Ukraine. But there were Ukraininans who helped them murder fellow Ukrainians, ethnic Jews, Russians and Poles.

Galician Waffen SS is hailed by many in Western Ukraine for their crimes. Imagine hailing other Waffen SS in Germany or other Western European country, for now at least.

I recall the quip when Germans complained that Austrians want to depict Hitler as German and Bach as an Austrian.

Ditto here. Russians are accused for the crimes committed by the other ethnicities.

So, who is ignoring the history?

41 posted on 05/07/2014 9:49:16 PM PDT by DTA
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Holodomor was masterminded by Lazer Kaganovich,who was not an ethnic Russian, in the Politburo devoid of Russians, led by the Georgian nicknamed The iron One (Stalin)

So, how exactly "Russians" deliberately starvated millions of Ukraininans (of whom many were actually ethnicRussians)?

You say: "The casualties of a running street battle are not a genocide.".

Well, US-NATO "justice" says otherwise. The casualties of Muslim fighters in Srebrenica were declared "Genocide" by U.S. sponsored ICTY kangaroo court.

If several thousand KIA combattants are genocide, several hundred unarmed civilians are genocide as well.

You can not have it both ways.

42 posted on 05/07/2014 10:00:37 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Russians are accused for the crimes committed by the other ethnicities.

You actually think that Stalin acted alone? Of course he didn't.

So, who is ignoring the history?

You are.

43 posted on 05/07/2014 10:01:53 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

You deserve Duranty Award for factual reporting.


44 posted on 05/07/2014 10:05:25 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
You deserve Duranty Award for factual reporting.

No you deserve the Duranty Award for your denial that Russians were involved in the Holodomor.

45 posted on 05/07/2014 10:15:36 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DTA
Holodomor was masterminded by Lazer Kaganovich,who was not an ethnic Russian, in the Politburo devoid of Russians, led by the Georgian nicknamed The iron One (Stalin) So, how exactly "Russians" deliberately starvated millions of Ukraininans (of whom many were actually ethnicRussians)?

Hitler was Austrian. Napoleon was Corsican. Did Kaganovich and Stalin give their orders in Hebrew and Georgian, respectively, in the name of Israel and Georgia? Who carried out their orders? Spare us the nonsense about Russian innocence. Ordinary Americans were horrified by the Waco massacre. Ordinary Russians exulted at the deaths of millions of Ukrainian "class enemies". Heck, like you, they still call them Nazis. Today's Russian attitudes are basically no different from that of Nazi Germany - the whole attitude is the Russian equivalent of Deutschland über alles, with Russia in the role of main victim, and bloody revenge and territorial conquest as the salve for mythical historical wrongs suffered by Russia, the largest empire in existence.

46 posted on 05/07/2014 10:23:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: DTA
There are many who have their History Twisted unfortunately.

As to the pregnant woman killed...Kiev Gov.denied it even happened....But she was working over holiday cleaning offices, watering flowers etc.....She was strangled with an electric wire found on the floor next to her body, and flower pot toppled near her body.

Here is the video of her screams for help heard over the crowd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvnLsshOJ18

. .....Soon after a Yellow and blue flag was draped out the window next to hers, as the crowd below cheered.

Video of Pro-Kiev thugs beating people who jumped out burning Trade Union building in Odessa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3IzeJegskI

Suspected killer of pregnant woman in Odessa, here ,same coat and hat...standing next to guy on the ground.


47 posted on 05/07/2014 10:26:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: DTA

regurgitating Russian propaganda is not performance art

better to trust neither side


48 posted on 05/07/2014 10:27:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Zhang Fei

God bless them!


50 posted on 05/07/2014 10:30:12 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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