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Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos
Kyiv Post ^ | May 7, 2014, 11:13 p.m. | Mark Rachkevych

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: DTA; GeronL; FreeReign; All
Andriy Parubiy. Secretary of the Security and National Defense Committee (RNBO), which supervises the defense ministry and the armed forces. Parubiy was leading Right Sector thugs in Kiev.

In fairness to Parubiy, the 'Right Sector thugs in Kiev' were also led by a Jewish commander during the Maidan.

"(JTA) — He calls his troops “the Blue Helmets of Maidan,” but brown is the color of the headgear worn by Delta — the nom de guerre of the commander of a Jewish-led militia force that participated in the Ukrainian revolution. Under his helmet, he also wears a kippah. Delta, a Ukraine-born former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, spoke to JTA Thursday on condition of anonymity. He explained how he came to use combat skills he acquired in the Shu’alei Shimshon reconnaissance battalion of the Givati infantry brigade to rise through the ranks of Kiev’s street fighters.

He has headed a force of 40 men and women — including several fellow IDF veterans — in violent clashes with government forces.

Several Ukrainian Jews, including Rabbi Moshe Azman, one of the country’s claimants to the title of chief rabbi, confirmed Delta’s identity and role in the still-unfinished revolution."

Read more: http://www.jta.org/2014/02/28/news-opinion/world/in-kiev-an-israeli-militia-commander-fights-in-the-streets-and-saves-lives#ixzz31Dz4O3O8

How many Jewish Nazis can we get to dance on the head of a pin?

101 posted on 05/09/2014 6:25:09 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In fairness to Parubiy, the 'Right Sector thugs in Kiev' were also led by a Jewish commander during the Maidan.

Do your homework, the Jewish "commander" took orders from the Right Sector Maidan leadership not the other way around.

102 posted on 05/09/2014 6:36:09 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

In that case, no army has commanders, since orders come from higher commanders, and still higher.


103 posted on 05/09/2014 6:40:47 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

No genius, the guy was the “commander” of his group of 40 or so volunteers, that’s it.

By his own admission, he took his marching orders from the fascists running the Maidan.

It doesn’t get any more complicated than that.


104 posted on 05/09/2014 7:01:14 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Im pretty sure the fascist part is your invention. And the volunteers are indeed Right Sector members he was leading.


105 posted on 05/09/2014 7:03:25 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Mariner

There are reports of Chechians going to the area to fight all comers (trying to get a war going to destabilize the area).

I don’t see any side in this as pure. You have Nazi’s on the one hand, neo Imperialists on the other. The real losers are the Ukrainian people. There are no winners.


106 posted on 05/09/2014 7:04:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You’re lying... and doing a poor job of it.


107 posted on 05/09/2014 7:07:36 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Jewish Nazi’s?????

Ok, is this a Mel Brooks’ movie?


108 posted on 05/09/2014 7:17:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Russian FM is on record claiming that the perps of this crime will not escape. How likely is that he would raise this issue if "Russia" was the perp?

Simple. Lie.

109 posted on 05/10/2014 12:05:37 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Zhang Fei; DTA

When the Germans conquered Ukraine in WW2, the Ukrainians initially (for the most part) welcomed them as “civilized” (compared to the Russians) and liberators. The Ukrainians soon discovered their mistake: Their liberation was a matter of “cooperate in everything, or die.” Of course, when the Russians reconquered Ukraine, this was reversed: Now it was “cooperate in finding anyone who did not resist the Nazis, or die.” Now, anyone not immediately pro-Russian / cooperative was by default a “Nazi”. Almost 20% of the population did die, by far the largest % of any large country, in WW2.

FF to 2014: Some seem to claim any anti-Russian in Ukraine is a Nazi. This is just absurd. Most Ukrainians want to be free of Russian domination, and have little use for Nazis, either.


110 posted on 05/10/2014 12:30:05 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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Do your homework, the first violence was committed by Right Sector tri-zubs against police in the early spring of 2013 which became the genesis for the Kiev Maidan.

Are you actually that ignorant of the forces and impetus for Maidan? It goes a lot further back than 2013, has basically nothing to do with Nazis, and the attempts of the US to meddle were essentially insignificant in what would eventually transpire. Right Sector did contribute to the modest organization and discipline of some of the protests, and perhaps to the protests eventual success, but the basis of the protests was far more fundamental and powerful than a tiny group most Ukrainians dislike.

111 posted on 05/10/2014 1:45:09 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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Lol...you sound just like an Obama interventionist. This was the scene in Kiev a week or so ago.


112 posted on 05/10/2014 4:58:21 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Zhang Fei

Now we can see why Putin is standing down, he has no need to conquer Ukraine, Putins bet is that Ukraine will destroy itself and he can walk in and create order as requested by the survivors.

There is a very wild element at play in Odessa and elsewhere. Anarchists may do Putins work for him.


113 posted on 05/10/2014 11:41:10 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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After Communist takeover of the Russian Empire in 1917, country was carved up and various ethnic groups got their own states called "soviet republics", ruled by their own Communists.

Ukrainians got Ukrainians Soviet Socialist Republic.

As I mentioned earlier, well until the late 1930s, the most members of Politburo and Secret service apparatus (Cheka, NKVD)were not Russians.

So, when German tanks rolled into Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1941, some Ukrainians welcomed them as liberators, some even eagerly joined the Nazis. In every civilized country it is called Fahnenflucht, or TREASON.

The narrative "Russians were Soviets, Soviets were Russians, everyone else who was living there is poor, innocent, oppressed minority ruled by Russians" is Cold War BS.

114 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:37 AM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
ruled by their own Communists.

Who took orders directly from Moscow.

115 posted on 05/12/2014 7:39:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Paul R.
>>>>>>>>>Russian FM is on record claiming that the perps of this crime will not escape. How likely is that he would raise this issue if "Russia" was the perp? Simple. Lie.<<<<<<

O.K. let's say you are right. Here are more puzzling questions. Any LEO would figure it out who is the perp.

1. How you explain the fact that the mass murder in Odessa is non-event in Western media?

2. How likely it is for Russia to buy the silence of the entire Western MSM sphere? Or MSM is covering up for the perp?

3. DOS is silent about this crime. How come, they are very silent, especially to blame someone. Again, why they are silent? Because of the too much of evidence?

4. Why is even blogosphere silenced? I know of at least one example, Twitter account Novorossiya2014 with over 14,000 followers was shut down because of reporting of Odessa crime that is not mentioned by MSM and DOS. Whom Twitter is protecting? The truth or the perps?

Last time I checked FB and Twitter were controlled by the U.S. intel community not by Russian FSB.

116 posted on 05/12/2014 7:50:46 AM PDT by DTA
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To: GeronL

Yes, your RINO agitprop lives in space #14.


117 posted on 05/12/2014 8:55:41 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: DTA

RINO, Establishment types here at FR...

Like I have said, the only correct position to have is to root for neither side, and demand that the U.S. stay out of this: no more EU, French, Merkel/Obama pressers on Ukraine.

Obama, Merkel, Hollande etc, need to not hold one more press conference or speech on Ukraine. Then they will be doing their jobs!


118 posted on 05/12/2014 8:58:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: FreeReign

>Stalin starved to death 5 to 7 million ethnic Ukrainians on the 30’s as part of the Holodomor.

Actually, I have heard modern estimates of the famine death toll as about 3.2 million.


119 posted on 06/13/2014 5:56:53 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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