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Iconic airboats won’t be part of Everglades culture for much longer
The Miami Herald ^ | 12/27/13 | Sue Cocking

Posted on 12/27/2013 11:30:46 AM PST by ExSoldier

Privately operated airboats, icons of the Gladesmen culture of the Everglades, will be dwindling in number because the Park Service isn’t granting any new licenses.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: agenda21; airboats; environmentalism; everglades; liberalagenda; obamasfault; tyranny; usparkservice
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This is another example of government intrusion into local culture and a denial of rights based on environmental activism and extremism. Worse, it's going to cost some lives because the air boaters routinely rescue people lost or involved in accidents. It will reduce the amount of education kids get on the region provided by both schools and parents or friends. Airboats are among the least intrusive vehicles that can penetrate deep into the swamp. Yes, they're loud but so is the thunder that rolls across the region often and so are the aircraft that fly over the region. I grew up out there on airboats. I learned to drive one out there. I feel like a small piece of my soul is being eradicated.
1 posted on 12/27/2013 11:30:46 AM PST by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier

Agenda 21.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 11:32:22 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: ExSoldier

Screw the government and its permits!


3 posted on 12/27/2013 11:33:30 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ExSoldier

I feel like a small piece of my soul is being eradicated.

It is, that small part called freedom.


4 posted on 12/27/2013 11:34:11 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ExSoldier

Some of the Park Service rangers that try to enforce this will wind up as gator chow.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 11:34:39 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: GladesGuru; SWAMPSNIPER; Joe Brower
PING
6 posted on 12/27/2013 11:37:18 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier

Always wanted to ride an airboat.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 11:39:36 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: ExSoldier
Well there goes my planned Gentle Ben reboot movie.



Maybe I can sell the idea to Michael Bay.
8 posted on 12/27/2013 11:41:22 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ExSoldier

Obama’s watermelons strike again.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 11:43:04 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: reg45

It’ll probably come down to that.

I hope no one is delusional enough to think this regulatory burden will ever get better...

Even those politicians who target one industry for “protection” or “repeal of burdensome regulation” invariably want some other industry burdened instead. Regardless of political Party.

The trend, for longer than most of us have been alive, is for the government to grow and freedom to shrink.


10 posted on 12/27/2013 11:43:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: ExSoldier

Reminds me of the episode of Big Bang, where they had the time machine prop from the original movie. Penny described it as looking like “something Elton John would ride through the everglades”.


11 posted on 12/27/2013 11:45:16 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Dead Corpse

Agreed. I have yet to see a politician of either party who was actually willing to eliminate a Government Department or put even a handful of bureaucrats out of their jobs.


12 posted on 12/27/2013 11:58:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ExSoldier

Not to worry. Since the Bay Area has more Red Sox fans than Rays fans...the Duck Boats are coming....


13 posted on 12/27/2013 12:02:04 PM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: ExSoldier
I feel like a small piece of my soul is being eradicated.


Well, that's the intent, is it not?

14 posted on 12/27/2013 12:02:38 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: ExSoldier

Another reason to elect can conservatives into Congress and the White House.

A federal agency, in this case the Parks Service, is MAKING LAW. They can call it a “rule” or a “determination” or a “regulation”, but it is in essence a LAW.

Congress ALONE has the power to make law, according to Article I, Section 1 of the Constitution: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”


15 posted on 12/27/2013 12:06:34 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: ExSoldier

This is nothing less than the continuation of the long war on whites and heterosexuals. Whatever those two groups like is fair game for a skirmish. After we’ve lost a thousand skirmishes, game over. At least that seems to be the theory. But I’m kind of hoping it’s game on.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 12:08:28 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: wally_bert
Always wanted to ride an airboat.

Do it if you can ... they're a lot of fun. NOT fun to get hit in the face by big flying bugs, though ;-)

17 posted on 12/27/2013 12:18:23 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: ExSoldier

One thing I learned by living overseas was that it’s one thing to pass a law or edict, it’s quite another to enforce it or obtain obedience to it.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 12:18:32 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: wally_bert
Always wanted to ride an airboat.

Get a good set of ear plugs first and ear muffs to go over them.

19 posted on 12/27/2013 12:20:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: ExSoldier

The Everglades is going to be re-designated by the Fed.gov as: Area 52.


20 posted on 12/27/2013 12:21:15 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: VanDeKoik

Anybody remember Lincoln Vale?

http://www.crazyabouttv.com/everglades.html


21 posted on 12/27/2013 12:35:20 PM PST by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: LibWhacker

I’ve visited most of the national parks west of the Rockies in the last five years. The bulk of the tourists you see are White or Asian. Can’t say about queers; I don’t recall seeing any real flamers.


22 posted on 12/27/2013 12:38:46 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: ExSoldier
This is one more reason for a Convention of States. This is our only chance to reign in these bureaucrats,to let the Fed Gov know who is supposed to be in charge.

They are not going to regulate themselves. They need to be reminded of their place in Government. The power of the Fed is subservient to the States, They only exist because the 50 States allow them to exist. They are restricted by the Constitution to a very few powers.

There are some people who are afraid of what a COS will do to our Constitution. The answer is a COS can not change one word of the Constitution. They can only propose amendments. It will still take ratification by 3/4 of the 50 states. Only good can come from the Convention.

Of course politicians of both parties are against it, it threatens their power and that, folks is what it is all about for them, power...

23 posted on 12/27/2013 12:41:20 PM PST by snowtigger
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To: beelzepug

Check the bushes.


24 posted on 12/27/2013 12:45:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: ExSoldier

Simple... run the boats illegally.

May as well take an M-79 along with you and take out the government gunboats when they close in.

Enough is enough.


25 posted on 12/27/2013 12:52:18 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: ExSoldier

Once the leftist federal government figures out a way to eliminate pesky common people but keep our tax money rolling in they will have finally created their liberal utopia.

We common people want to spoil the parks and natural areas by actually using them.
We want to run around free, doing what we like with no government direction or regimentation.
We don’t want to be penned up in city apartments like caged rats in a government laboratory.

The government wants to control us and regiment us like chickens in an egg factory - restricted to government approved areas but still [producing every day.

They don’t want us living like free range chickens, stomping on the grass, going where we like, living free of oppressive government regulations and restrictions.

It’s just too messy a concept for government control freaks to accept.


26 posted on 12/27/2013 1:15:04 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: reg45
Some of the Park Service rangers that try to enforce this will wind up as gator chow


             

27 posted on 12/27/2013 1:15:12 PM PST by tomkat
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To: wally_bert

Well Wally_bert,
If you go to Everglades City they have these airboat rides that take the same little canals and go the same routes and theyy pack a dozen or so fools in and take you out to see a gator or three.
Incredible fishing and just plain fun and stay away from anything labeled park service.


28 posted on 12/27/2013 1:15:40 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: reg45

“Some of the Park Service rangers that try to enforce this will wind up as gator chow.”

Lot of places to get lost down there.


29 posted on 12/27/2013 1:16:24 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ExSoldier
While I agree with you, the sad fact is the “Gladesmen” worked for and voted into existance, the socialism that is denying them access to the very lands they voted to socialize.

As always, those who lie down with socialists (call them enviro’s, commies, liberals, whatever), always get screwed by those socialists.

These folks were just white, working class “GimmePigs”, fools who believed taking land from the many and giving it to the Government (which is Communism's basic premise, I note) would be good for them.

It wasn't.

Those “Gladesmen” are largely weekend warriors. They are a far cry from the people who once made a living in the Everglades, people like Totch Brown, Raymond Rewis, and their many neighbors who were from families which settled the Glades and lived there until urban commies in government agencies forced them off the land.

Consider them as “Kulaks lite”, just being starved out a bit at a time - or regulated out, one regulation at a time.

In the Pinecrest area, those people were warned, regularly, but did nothing when they could have so done.

I will soon publish a book on this, and having been both a member of Sierra Clubs Florida Executive Committee (FLEXCOM) and having known ParcPersons from the local Armed & Rangerous to the Sec. of Interior’s abuse and the nauseating behavior of Florida's “Possum Police”, you might well find it interesting to read. Alas, the book is full of one Trough Feeder after another, and one NGOPerson after another - all busily and successfully depriving Florida residents of their property, Constitutional Guarantees, and finally even their American heritage.

As you know, far too may teachers in the Miami-Dade Pooblik Skrewl Collective are socialism infected and few have even heard of American Exceptionalism. Indeed, the average Edumacator did little better than their students on a test I administered to them as part of a program I developed for Dade Schools.

The program produced both continuing ed courses for teachers and courses for students. The results showed there is something profoundly amiss in the Pooblik Skrewl Collective’s.

The same failure to teach the core concepts which made the American Republic an exception to the sad history of one tyrant after another, made possible the communizing of the Everglades.

As for the National Park Service, it has long been known inside the Beltway as a refugia for fools, collectivist fools, too. PM me and I will show you a videotape of a friend who was Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee’s Subcommittee on the Interior. His considered comments are far more harsh than what I posted here, and he had both the scientific/professional, and the political knowledge and experience to support his statements.

In closing, I must remind all that the “Gladesmen” were decidedly hostile towards my for reasons clearly defined by a past Everglades National Park Superintendent. That same perspective is what was cleverly used by the Trough Feeders and their allies, to socialize the Everglades with the help of the “Gladesmen.”

I, and my colleagues, tried to sound a warning, but all were blinded by the allure of a socialized Everglades, such as: “Something for nothing”.
“No nasty landowners posting the land.”
“A place for ‘traditional uses’ in perpetuity.”

I doubt anyone will listen now, just as they didn't listen when I told a past Airboat President that they needed to heed their lawyer, Bill Horne. He was as good as a DC lawyer gets.

When I mentioned to him that Fred the Wonderdog was still stupidvisor of BCNP he said, “I was going to fire that stupid “bachelors child (author's word choice, not Horne's) but I left before I got around to it.

A pity, that - because Fred was an hyper eager regulator.

Anyway, I doubt anyone will want to do anything effective, so time to give the keyboard a break.

Happy New Year to you and yours, and may your students not attack you.

30 posted on 12/27/2013 1:21:38 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: ExSoldier

The Alternative to air boats... Geeee... Thanks Liberal whackadoodles!

31 posted on 12/27/2013 1:22:52 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Iron Munro

Once the leftist federal government figures out a way to eliminate pesky common people but keep our tax money rolling in they will have finally created their liberal utopia.

Robots.... Fear Robots.... They will give the elite control freaks everything they wanted...


32 posted on 12/27/2013 1:23:42 PM PST by GraceG
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To: organicchemist

“TAnybody remember Lincoln Vale”

That program died on American TV, but was very polular in Germany. I think it is still on hte rerun channels over there.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 1:24:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: tomkat

“Some of the Park Service rangers that try to enforce this will wind up as gator chow”

PETA might consider that cruelty to alligators.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 1:26:44 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: ExSoldier

35 posted on 12/27/2013 1:29:21 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: onedoug

Isn’t this the same bunch shut down our national parks and forests and tried to stop our veterans? I ran a Corvair powered acrobat on the Tuscarawas River here in Ohio. Damon that was fun


36 posted on 12/27/2013 1:33:51 PM PST by Rannug
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To: reg45

When that happens I’ll stand up and cheer.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 1:34:13 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ExSoldier
I can't imagine not being able to ride an airboat in the Everglades. Nor hunt, fish...camp out. That's what's happening.

What are the Seminoles going to do? [What peace treaty? The Osceolas are going to be pissed]

This is not good.

Oh, and for posterity, I've been to a decommissioned Nike missile battery in the Glades...

5.56mm

38 posted on 12/27/2013 1:38:55 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: reg45

Are these the same National Park Service dufuses that tried to lock up the War Memorials recently? The Kenyan’s brown shirts are really , really pushing their lucks. Floating thru a swamp has got to be one of the most damaging things that could ever ever happen to the world’s eco systems. No doubt kills eagles. Probably causes global warming, Certainly melts the ice caps faster. And surely causes florida sink holes.

Guys in boats have got to be stopped!!!Refer to the Connecticut story and line up to turn in your swamp buggies.


39 posted on 12/27/2013 1:39:04 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Joe Boucher

Joe,

The airboat rides in the Everglades City are limited to mangrove and some salt marsh habitats. The varied areas used by the different airboat operators once offered opportunities to see as much of the varied Everglades habitats as one wanted. One could even make arangements to take a private airboat into areas inaccesable to the large ride boats.

Socializing the Everglades destgroyed all that.

Now, there is no way to access most of the Central Plains area, arguable the nicest part of the entire Everglades.

Thanks to the faulty premise of “wilderness” even National Park scientists can’t take an airboat anywhere except on designated trails in the Park. trails reserved for ParkMan’s Armed & Rangerous or their bureau-scientists.


40 posted on 12/27/2013 1:43:09 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Rodamala

Then they bring more moats, and aircraft...


41 posted on 12/27/2013 1:54:08 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

moats=boats

DOH!


42 posted on 12/27/2013 2:01:51 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: ExSoldier
As for longtime commercial airboat tour operators along the Trail — Coopertown, Everglades Safari Park, and Gator Park — the park proposes to buy their properties, turn them into concessionaires and confine their operations to a “front country zone” of about 10,000 to 11,000 acres just south of the Trail. If the park’s preferred plan is adopted sometime next year, then the rest of the East Everglades — more than 80,000 acres — would be designated as wilderness with no mechanical propulsion — even bicycles — allowed.

Park planner Fred Herling says the aim is to strike a balance between the desires of airboaters and other visitors such as paddlers and hikers. - http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/27/3838829/iconic-airboats-wont-be-part-of.html#emlnl=Five_Minute_Herald#storylink=cpy

Sad.

43 posted on 12/27/2013 2:30:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep, it’s like watching the elected version of Patty Hearst writ large.


44 posted on 12/27/2013 3:13:33 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: daniel1212
HERL ALERT! Park planner Fred Herling says the aim is to strike a balance between the desires of airboaters and other visitors such as paddlers and hikers." \Herling's statement is classic bureaucrapic bafflegab and is both deliberately deceptive and misleading. Most all of that area is unsuitable for walking or kayaking. That nasty ParcPerson knows it, too. For an excellent video on ParcMan, Google "Big Park". www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvAB6DAhtM‎
45 posted on 12/27/2013 3:17:32 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: daniel1212

I’m just curious but when an airliner crashes in the
middle of that 80,000 acres of swamp wilderness, how
do they propose to reach the crash site?


46 posted on 12/27/2013 3:19:10 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GladesGuru
Thanks for your #30 above .. interesting (and sad) stuff.

Btw, sounds like ol' Fred would make for some dandy chum.

47 posted on 12/27/2013 3:40:25 PM PST by tomkat
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To: GladesGuru

I’ve been kayaking in the everglades. Beautiful but a lotta work. Impossible to reach those areas and no place to overnight.


48 posted on 12/27/2013 3:46:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: M Kehoe
Oh, and for posterity, I've been to a decommissioned Nike missile battery in the Glades...

That battery was designed by my late father....

49 posted on 12/27/2013 3:47:14 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: organicchemist
Lincoln Vale
50 posted on 12/27/2013 3:49:38 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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