Posted on 12/18/2013 7:09:31 PM PST by markomalley
In Lawrence v. Texas, the U.S. Supreme Court, reversing its own then-recent holding in Bowers v. v. Hardwick, ruled that laws against homosexual sodomy are unconstitutionaleven though the Constitution says nothing about sex, let alone sodomyon the ground that the right of privacy (also never mentioned in the Constitution) protects all consensual, private sexual contact between adults. Lawrence immediately was seen as a milestone in the campaign for gay marriage. Some conservatives noted that the Courts rationale would protect polygamy, too, but they were denounced as killjoys. Lawyers noticed, however. Soon after Lawrence, several lawsuits were commenced in federal courts asserting a constitutional right to polygamy.
Earlier this year, in United States v. Windsor, the Supreme Court didnt quite decree that gay marriage is a constitutional right, but in striking down key provisions of the Defense of Marriage Act it came perilously close. I dont think many observers doubtI certainly dontthat gay marriage will soon be anointed as a right by the federal courts, if the issue isnt first made moot by state legislatures.
Once gay marriage has been enthroned, polygamy is next on the agenda. Heres the thing: once you take the teleology of reproduction out of the equation, there is no logical objection to polygamy. If Fred and Sam can be in lovewhich I dont doubtand therefore are entitled to marrytheres the rubthen why cant Fred, Sam and George be in love, and equally entitled to marry one another? Polygamy follows from gay marriage as night follows the day.
Last Friday, the portion of Utahs anti-polygamy law that applied to cohabitation, passage of which was a condition of Utahs admission to the Union, was ruled unconstitutional by Federal Judge Clark Waddoups. Judge Waddoupss opinion has been criticized in some quarters and, in any event, represents not the last word on the subject, but rather an opening shot. Still, I dont think it is hard to see where this is heading.
The same liberals who were outraged, or pretended to be, when conservatives pointed out that gay marriage would lead to polygamy, are now starting to dip their toes into the water. Like the New York Times, the official voice of the Left: One Man, One Woman. Or More. The Times invited six commentators to weigh in on polygamy; four were in favor. Click to enlarge:
The summaries of the four pro-polygamy views will sound familiar. Stop me if youve heard this before:
Legally, No Different From Same-sex Unions: Liberals should not let themselves be manipulated into only caring about one kind of marriage discrimination.
Enough With the Scare Tactics: Like same-sex marriage, plural marriage should be debated on its merits. Let public policy concerns, not sloppy moralizing, guide the law.
We Are A Nation of Boundary Breakers: Permitting consenting adults to engage in polygamy may, perhaps, make all our families freer to be as we choose.
Understanding Who They Are: Ultimately, we must ask ourselves: Are polygamists deviants who should be repressed, or are they as deserving of respect and dignity as anyone else?
Trust me: its coming. First, any criticism of polygamy will be effectively silenced. Today the principal star of Duck Dynasty was suspended by A&E for comments in an interview that were deemed anti-gay, although just a year or two ago, they would have been considered self-evidently true. Before long, the same thing will happen to anyone in the public realm who questions the desirability of polygamy. Then polygamy will be blessed as a constitutional right. Who can deny the power of true love?
At that point, marriage, an institution that has existed for thousands of years and has been considered indispensable by nearly everyone since time immemorial, will be extinct. The consequences are unknowable. Some libertarians argue that the solution to this problem is to get the state out of the marriage business entirely. I would be sympathetic to this approach if I could understand what it means. Is the entire field of family law, which has been an important part of our civilizations legal structure for centuries, to go out of existence? How can you have family law without marriage law? I dont get it.
As Scott is fond of pointing out, the first platform of the Republican Party announced the partys opposition to the twin relics of barbarism, slavery and polygamy. That platform turns out to be more relevant to current affairs than we might have thought. This time, however, the GOPs opposition to polygamy is likely to be overrun by the establishment, which considers any anti-religious initiative to be good policy.
allah and mohammad are pleased.
Mr. RomneyCARE will be pleased.
in a way i hope it does....this way we can all scream “marriage equality” and tell the libs what mormonphobes they are...
Who are we to stop three or four people who LOVE each other from expressing themselves in a legal bond of marriage?
They dont hurt anyone!
This will strengthen marriage not hurt it.
Jimmy will be better off with a few married mommies or daddies. No need for babysitters.
“Polygamy bans are built on fear and misunderstanding”
The first shot across the bow for this next cultural backslide into the gutter.
The thing is, those of us who know right from wrong, have hardened our skin over the years against accusations of ‘bigotry’ and ‘hatred’ so being called a polyphobe is likely to just roll right off our backs
And “islamophobes” as well.
The libertarians are right on this point, even if we don't know the consequences.
Marriage law is in such shambles in this country that you now have an entire area of law -- divorce law -- dedicated to the dissolutions of what would be considered binding contracts in any other area of law.
If real estate contracts had the same track record (imagine selling a house and then suing the buyer 15 years later to force him to give it back to you), that entire area of law would be laughed out of existence and there would be no such thing as a real estate contract anymore.
What goes on between a man and his sheep doesn’t hurt anybody....
Legal marriage should always be one man and one marriage. Freaks can live together and call each other honey but that doesn’t mean society has to condone it.
BAA-BAA....BAAAAHHHHHH
You is sick sickoflibs! LOL
That is not very open minded,
What if three people love each other?
Dont they have a right to all marry each other?
It can’t be. The protagonists of gay marriage assured us that gay marriage wouldn’t become an open door for all kinds of perversion, even though polygamy is the next logical step. ...We’ve opened a door that can’t be closed, and all kinds of perversion will walk through it.
If this takes hold, their will be a hole lot of men without Wives and a few with many. Not exactly an equal outcome. Where is the cry for equality in this matter?
I’m not a polygamy supporter myself but I figure they’ll just argue that women will be allowed to have one or more husbands as well and that will take care of that.
It’s always been here.
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