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Pope Francis, The Choice (Time person of the year!)
Time ^ | Nancy Gibbs

Posted on 12/11/2013 6:31:03 AM PST by Morgana

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To: NKP_Vet

That really makes sense: punishing a child for reading his prayer book by taking it away from him and making him watch cartoons on TV.


161 posted on 12/13/2013 5:29:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

trying to mess those kids up!


162 posted on 12/13/2013 5:31:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: NKP_Vet
For the record: Franciscans of the Immaculate under severe Vatican persecution

The Franciscan Oath

And the Jesuit Oath: Blessed be this Beach Ball


163 posted on 12/13/2013 5:58:08 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: GeronL; NKP_Vet

Yes! The Pope did call for everyone to make a mess.


164 posted on 12/13/2013 6:02:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; NKP_Vet; GeronL

And he’s leading by example.


165 posted on 12/13/2013 6:05:06 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m not the one “tap dancing” around the question seeing as you have YET to answer the one I addressed to you first.


166 posted on 12/13/2013 10:23:38 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Morgana; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

You love it? Really? It’s clearly because of his unfortunate economic comments.


167 posted on 12/14/2013 12:30:09 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“I tried to stay optimistic about the pope, but came to the point when I had to admit he’s a complete disaster...”

Exact same thinking as my own. Rerum Novarum on Capital and Labor by Pope Leo XIII already tells us that private ownership is in accordance with the law of nature. I haven’t read either encyclical in it’s entirety but just skimming Rerum Novarum convinces me that this Pope got it and why do we need another on the subject?

I too am exceedingly close to finding a Chapel, although we have Pius V nearer to us than X and I worry about validity of the mass, although I am close to certain that some of the Novus Ordo masses around here are just about invalid too.


168 posted on 12/14/2013 6:20:59 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; GSP.FAN; NFHale

Methinks this Pope is questionable:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/europe/2013/12/popes_crackdown_on_order_alarms_traditionalists

Thank God I converted.


169 posted on 12/14/2013 7:52:35 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; GSP.FAN

“Crackdown” on Pre-Vatican II Latin mass...

Hmm. I LIKE the Pre-Vatican II Latin.

Refuse to obey. Like anything else liberal.

God will sort it out.

End of story.


170 posted on 12/14/2013 8:00:19 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; GSP.FAN

Yes. I think this Pope is heading towards turd territory.


171 posted on 12/14/2013 8:01:53 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Kinda appears that way at the moment...

Read the book “AA-1025” when you get a chance. There’s a downloable PDF of it out here somewhere.

It explains a lot.


172 posted on 12/14/2013 8:11:00 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Ok, I will. Thanks for the suggestion.


173 posted on 12/14/2013 8:17:56 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: boatbums

Pope Francis was chosen for the exact same reason the others, both liberal and conservatives were chosen. He was the biggest story of the year. His flock is over a billionare people and the press picked up on him paying for his own room after the conclave, then washing the feet of prisoners, saying Mass in prison, and kissing the head of lepors - all basically acting like a parish priest instead of what THEY PERCEIVED the leader of the Catholic Church is supposed to do. The doctrine of the Catholic Church remains the same under Francis, but the braindead media for some reason thinks he’s going to be different from other Popes before him. Surprise. He’s the same, just has a different style. So now you can reply back and say it was because of a couple lines of a 285 page paper of his and label him a communist or socialist, and of course tell me that’s why Time made him Person of the Year. But you ignore the part where he said we need to GET PEOPLE OFF WELFARE. Because you know that socialists put people on welfare, they don’t want them off. And since your agenda is to trash the pope you will say nothing good about his 285 page “Joy of the Gospel”.


174 posted on 12/14/2013 10:21:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("God never tires of forgiving us, we are the ones who tire of seeking his mercy" - Pope Francis)
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To: Morgana

If “One of Our Good Guys” is voted Time’s Person of the Year, it’s time to reassess his bona fides.


175 posted on 12/14/2013 6:55:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

sure is

:p


176 posted on 12/14/2013 6:56:05 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Morgana

Purple rage alert from the fractioned. Too funny.


177 posted on 12/14/2013 7:03:49 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale

I’m not religious but my mom is a DEVOUT Catholic.

After initially liking him my mom said he’s reminding her of all the liberal priests she knows. There are a lot of them, and liberal nuns are also a problem.

But as we see on this thread a lot of people seem to have the idea you can’t be a good Catholic without making excuses for this guy. Kinda like how Republicans felt they had to rally around George Bush when he was being liberal.


178 posted on 12/14/2013 10:27:19 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: wardaddy
"Good lord

You guys are in complete denial

A liberal pope plain and simple

A real pity

Does any Catholic here see this?

$&!?#%€£¥+#~?!!"

-----------------

AAAAAAARGH!

NOT "liberal."

NOT F$&@#%^ LIBERAL!

Adam Smith was a liberal. Jefferson was a liberal. Bastiat, JS Mill, Hayek...all liberals. Hayek wrote a fairly famous essay called "Why I am not a Conservative" or something very close to that.

Milton Friedman called himself a liberal to his dying day.

These people are leftists, Marxists, socialists, statists, collectivists. ANYTHING but "liberal!"

When I hear people calling the likes of Filth Obama, Chuck Shumer and nitwits such as the editorial staff of Time "liberals," I fear my head will explode.

Marx DETESTED liberals - and for good reason. Liberals believe in the individual, and in individual sovereignty. Statists like Pope Lefty believe in no such thing. They find the notion quaint and outdated.

I need a drink.

Hank

179 posted on 12/14/2013 11:53:08 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Tagline withheld pending NSA review)
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To: Morgana

I am Jewish, but my Catholic friends believe that it is God working through the Cardinals that appoints the Pope.

If this is part of the Catholic doctrine, how could a Catholic ever be against what the Pope says? Wouldn’t that be going against God?


180 posted on 12/15/2013 5:14:39 AM PST by sakic
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