Column: Obama's Obamacare Deception: You May Not Know the Half of It

David Limbaugh.com ^ | 11/18/13 | David Limbaugh

[Impala64ssa]

Just when you think things can't get much worse with Obamacare, another shoe drops. Correction: This thing has enough dropping shoes to fully fit a centipede.

That Obama deliberately lied (please excuse the redundancy, but it is apparently necessary to clarify one's meaning in this postmodern age) in telling people they could keep their plans and doctors is now beyond dispute. He and his handlers have tried to obfuscate the issue with further deception but have fallen way short of passing the laugh test.

Some liberals have taunted me on Twitter that all politicians lie. Well, that certainly ends the inquiry, does it not? Forever after, we'll yield to this cynical pronouncement and decline to hold any politicians accountable. Perhaps we should dispense with all moral codes altogether, because we're all sinners.

Of course, anyone who makes these kinds of arguments advertises himself as too intellectually dishonest to be taken seriously. Do you think any of these people would so casually excuse a person lying to them in their personal or business lives about an important matter?

So from the perspective of those of us in the real world, Obama has himself in quite a pickle.

[Impala64ssa]

David Limbaugh chronicling the anatomy of a lie. Thanks to his Indonesian/muzzie upbringing, apparently 0 never understood the concept of "a tanlged web we weave when we first conspire to deceive".

[FlingWingFlyer]

Barry Soetoro is a compulsive liar. Communism is a tough sell. It takes a lot of lying to sell it to thinking people.

[C210N]

Selling it to enough unthinking people for it to take hold, all the while the thinking people are forced to go down the drain with the unthinkers.

[GreyFriar]

ping

[Thom Pain]

The web site fiasco will turn out to be the BEST part of this Obamac are nightmare. sigh

[Jane Long]

^5

[Jane Long]

What’s not a lie about 0? Benghazi, job numbers before the election, 0DeathCare, Pubbies fault economy and 0DeathCare not doing well, etc, etc.

[Cvengr]

Don’t underestimate what might be happening.

Follow the money.

For some $650mil, and reports from Maxine Waters, Obama is building a very large database on ALL Americans.

$650mil is about what it would cost to tie together most known public DBs into one repository to track all Americans with dosiers on each of us.

It might be the case that those operating the systems are just greedy and not very technically proficient, but I wouldn’t count on it.

IMHO, Obama is just the front end of a poorly understood system. The back end is undefined and scary.

[jsanders2001]

Even better would be someone within the administration that would spill the beans that its really about implanting everyone with an ID that can be used to track them, provide a permanent ID that can’t be removed that can be read by scanners for government functions, and used for fining purposes (speeding on the highway, entering into “forbidden” areas that the feds deem “forbidden”, buying guns if the 2nd amendment is removed (in the future if the libs get their way).

[endthematrix]

One of the IL Blue Cross BS coder spilled the beans to me last June. I said Obama lied. He could’ve cared less. He said the state can’t manage the exchanges and I told him (to his surprise) that it was to usher in single payer. He said they haven’t released that to the public yet. He’s in DC now as one of HHS tech warriors “fixing” the website. Lying is the thing they care of...now.

[spokeshave]

I posted this on another thread today....

I’m thinking there are going to be some serious “Health Deserts” with the nearest hospital hundreds of miles away.

It's a lot worse than that....

I read several times that the network geographic area under Obamacare is fairly small....and no "out of area coverage"...

...so look to see a system of internal passports set up for out of network travel....just like in the old Soviet Union.

I guess Obama takes the keys to the Data Base with him.....Hillary a mere piker compared to Obama...she only got 600 FBI files.

[GeronL]

There are no Medicare doctors in my town and county according to a search at the Medicare website. I guess soon any doctor will be “out of area”

[353FMG]

Compulsive deception by the POTUS has become acceptable by the MSM, Congress and a large group of the American people.

If it were not so they would hold him accountable outright instead of just bitch, moan, complain, justify and discuss it in the news.

[Secret Agent Man]

would these people excuse their employer for lying to them about what obama has lied to all of us about healthcare?

if their employer said they could keep their plans and then changed them on them.

if their employer said their premiums would go down 2500 but instead went up and their deductibles went way up.

if they said they could keep their docs but their docs weren’t in the plans they switched them to.

how would they feel about the lies if their employer did this to them?

republican campaign ads, listen up. republicans in congress, talking points here!

[RetiredTexasVet]

Mark my words, His Arrogance and crew of clowns will completely screw up health care so badly that he will be “required” to declare a “health care emergence” and award himself dictatorial powers to nationalize health care.

[ronnie raygun]

They will wait as planned until the people gorow in huge numbers and become irate and frightened to death, they will introduce a fix they had all along throw it out there the GOP will say no way and the rats will point the finger and the GOP will cave

[mojo114]

Like your comment and I would add the end is single payer.
I think that all this fooling around about the website is just crap. Single payer is where this is headed and they are all just stalling for the right time.

[IncPen]

I think that all this fooling around about the website is just crap. Single payer is where this is headed and they are all just stalling for the right time.

They will break it so completely that the populace will demand single payer.

They'll create a major health scare too-- a virus, or a terror attack, to maim the remaining system.

They smell absolute power, they can taste it.

[Yosemitest]

Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are "Collapsing the System".
And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM".

Flashback: Obama's Campaign to Transition to Single Payer Health Care (VIDEO)


obama master plan on health careover the years in his own words--SINGLE PAYER!!! ( 3:38 )

They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!

Lets review:

Who was it that cut future funding for Medicare by $575 billion?

...the president and the Democratic Party successfully bamboozle voters... The 2012 election could turn on this falsehood.
The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years ...

Mr. Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius frequently make that false claim.
Indeed, even Medicare's mailings to seniors repeat the claim that reducing spending on Medicare will make it more financially secure for future years.
The fact is that Mr. Obama's law raids Medicare.

Who was it that moved Medicare Trust Funds out of the "trust box" and into the General Revenue, replacing them with Government I.O.U.s?
"In early 1968 President Lyndon Johnson [DEMOCRAT] made a change in the budget presentation by including Social Security and all other trust funds in a"unified budget." "

Who was it that expanded Medicare and Medicaid to cover many, many more people than it was originally designed to cover?

The History of Medicare

In 1965, the Social Security Act established both Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare was a responsibility of the Social Security Administration (SSA), while Federal assistance to the State Medicaid programs was administered by the Social and Rehabilitation Service (SRS). SSA and SRS were agencies in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW). In 1977, the Health Care Financing Administration was created under HEW to effectively coordinate Medicare and Medicaid. In 1980 HEW was divided into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The first U.S. President to propose a prepaid health insurance plan was Harry S. Truman [DEMOCRAT]. On November 19, 1945, in a special message to Congress, President Truman outlined a comprehensive, prepaid medical insurance plan for all people through the Social Security system. The plan included doctors and hospitals, and nursing, laboratory, and dental services; it was dubbed "National Health Insurance." Furthermore, medical insurance benefits for needy people were to be financed from Federal revenues.

Over the years, lawmakers narrowed the field of health insurance recipients largely to social security beneficiaries. A national survey found that only 56 percent of those 65 years of age or older had health insurance. President John F. Kennedy [DEMOCRAT] pressed legislators for health insurance for the aged. However, it wasn't until 1965 that President Lyndon B. Johnson signed H.R. 6675 (The Social Security Act of 1965; PL 89-97) to provide health insurance for the elderly and the poor.

On July 30, 1965, President Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Bill (Title XVIII and Title XIX of the Social Security Act) in Independence, Missouri in the presence of former President Truman, who received the first Medicare card at the ceremony; Lady Bird Johnson, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, and Mrs. Truman also were present. President Johnson remarked: "We marvel not simply at the passage of this Bill but that it took so many years to pass it."

Medicare extended health coverage to almost all Americans aged 65 or older. About 19 million beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare in the first year of the program. Medicaid provided access to health care services for certain low-income persons and expanded the existing Federal-State welfare structure that assisted the poor.

The 1972 Social Security Amendments expanded Medicare to provide coverage to two additional high risk groups disabled persons receiving cash benefits for 24 months under the social security program and persons suffering from end-stage renal disease.

...(continued at link)

So Democrats,

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR INSURING THE FAILURE
OF THE MEDICARE/MEDICAID PROGRAM,
and now YOU DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTENTIONAL DESTRUCTION OF THE U.S.A. ECONOMY!!!

So DEMOCRATS ... SHUT UP!!!

You have no integrity!!!

Sen Mark Kirk's statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ...

"There are 55 million Social Security beneficiaries that will see little or no extra cash from this 2012 tax holiday; instead, the dedicated payroll contributions meant to pay for future benefits are being diverted from the Trust Fund
and replaced with Treasury debt that does not even have a AAA credit rating.
Social Security was designed to be independent and free from the danger of Congressional manipulation,
and maintaining the firewall between the Social Security Trust Fund and general government funding is the best way to maintain the solvency of this important program.
Neither bill protects the Social Security Trust Fund
so I voted no. "

It's not our fault that DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund.
Let's remember ...

Not ALL are to blame for the empty lock box.

It's the Democrats Communists.

Let's take a deeper look.

Obama: "I Don't Want the Folks who Created the Mess to do a lot of Talking" "

Okay, then the DEMOCRATS need to shut up!!!

[marron]

For some $650mil, and reports from Maxine Waters, Obama is building a very large database on ALL Americans. $650mil is about what it would cost to tie together most known public DBs into one repository to track all Americans with dosiers on each of us.

I think you just nailed it.

I don't think "single payer" is the end game. The dossier is. The linking of your medical records with your tax records and your bank records with everything that can be known about you into a single database.

You'll have no secrets. If you have secrets, you have in effect lied to a federal agent and now you're a felon.