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White House OKd spying on allies, U.S. intelligence officials say
LA Times ^ | 10/28/2013 | Ken Dilanian and Janet Stobart

Posted on 10/29/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by mojito

The White House and State Department signed off on surveillance targeting phone conversations of friendly foreign leaders, current and former U.S. intelligence officials said Monday, pushing back against assertions that President Obama and his aides were unaware of the high-level eavesdropping.

Professional staff members at the National Security Agency and other U.S. intelligence agencies are angry, these officials say, believing the president has cast them adrift as he tries to distance himself from the disclosures by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden that have strained ties with close allies.

The resistance emerged as the White House said it would curtail foreign intelligence collection in some cases and two senior U.S. senators called for investigations of the practice.

France, Germany, Italy, Mexico and Sweden have all publicly complained about the NSA surveillance operations, which reportedly captured private cellphone conversations by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, among other foreign leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: france; lyingliarswholie; merkel; nsa; obama; obamalies; surveillancestate; underbarrysbus
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Barry spied, and then Barry lied.

Merkel cried.

1 posted on 10/29/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
Barry lied again?

No!

2 posted on 10/29/2013 8:43:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Well, that was unexpected.


3 posted on 10/29/2013 8:44:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mojito

We will not go gentle under the Big Bus...


4 posted on 10/29/2013 8:46:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mojito

Why are we tolerating a total pathological liar as President with no repercussions from Congress?


5 posted on 10/29/2013 8:47:08 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: mojito

Not only does the President know....but at least a dozen Senators also know. Bush, along with Rumsfeld, the Bush intelligence team...they all know. There’s probably well over 500 people with apparent clearances....all political in nature...outside of NSA....who know.

To sit around and pretend....oh, I never was told about this....simply makes you look very foolish.

If I were the Germans....I’d entice Snowden to pull up stakes...relocate to Germany....and give the guy a free deal to stay, and then entice him to dump everything he knows....to the Germans. Then Merkel can truly say...she knows everything...that President Obama doesn’t know, or ever well know.

Luckily for us....President Obama doesn’t know about the secret alien and UFO exchange with Bothar, the Bigfoot-hybrid development program, the worm-hole experiment going on in Boise, the Mayan time-machine that we discovered last year, or the secret Coke recipe.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 8:48:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: skeeter
Barry lied again?

No no no, he was "unaware..."

.

7 posted on 10/29/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: pepsionice
Ed Snowden's life must be very much like that old James Coburn flick The President's Analyst


8 posted on 10/29/2013 8:51:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

The question is why are we tolerating a weak, yellow striped cowardly congress in the face of a dictator? There should be torches and pitchforks seen for MILES in DC....casting enough light to read by night.


9 posted on 10/29/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: mojito
So which is it? This morning I hear that barry didn't know about. Now the NSA says he did. This should be interesting.
10 posted on 10/29/2013 8:53:19 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: mojito

Another “Did I Do Thaaaat?” moment for President Urkel.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 8:56:33 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

he must have the memory of a goldfish


12 posted on 10/29/2013 8:56:53 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: mojito

Of course. There was never any doubt.

I would like to know if 0 has the NSA spy on the middle eastern countries that hate us. He loves them, and doesn’t want them mad at him.

He hates European countries, and doesn’t care if he gets them mad.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 8:57:56 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: mojito

- maybe a little blow - maybe a lotta golf -


14 posted on 10/29/2013 9:00:18 AM PDT by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iran-born Valerie Jarrett)
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To: TLI

What did he not know and when did he not know it?


15 posted on 10/29/2013 9:02:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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16 posted on 10/29/2013 9:11:59 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Obunga best stop pissing people off. You never know there could be a birther in the Spy Agencies.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 9:16:08 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: mojito

Merkel should record Obama. Merkel shouldn’t say a word and simply leak it out onto the airwaves.


18 posted on 10/29/2013 9:16:30 AM PDT by Gator113 ( Cruz, Palin and Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: mojito
But what will these Nations do besides talk? In the world of diplomacy it comes down to, "I'm mad...really mad...boy am I mad."

This administration, "Oh, we're sorry it won't happen again." But what they are really thinking is what Soupy Sales reportedly said to a friend in the studio when he cut to the cartoon and got kicked off the Saturday morning kid's show.

19 posted on 10/29/2013 9:16:56 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: mojito

Since when do conservatives oppose this sort of spying? Friends today are competitors and opponents tomorrow - so naturally we spy on them. Big deal.

Of course Obama knew, and of course he will deny such knowledge. Bush would have done exactly the same if this traitor Snowden had leaked all this material on his watch.

Obama looks like an idiot denying he knew when we all know better, but that’s the whole point of “plausible deniability”. For the idiot in chief, this just compounds the problems he has because he is also busy denying he knew Obamacare was going to be a disaster (website not working, people losing insurance, etc).


20 posted on 10/29/2013 9:18:17 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

The Congress is filled with Pathological liars too.


21 posted on 10/29/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Tar and feathers for them all.


22 posted on 10/29/2013 9:22:15 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: mojito

The White House did...the building did.

Barry Hussein didn’t know about it.


23 posted on 10/29/2013 9:28:30 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: mojito

Biden 2013


24 posted on 10/29/2013 9:34:38 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: mojito

When the press is pushed to the wall, they use the pronoun “White House” to refer to chicanery. They don’t directly attribute it to Obama.


25 posted on 10/29/2013 9:37:33 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: mojito

The size of that bus Barry keeps throwing people under gets bigger and bigger each & every passing day.

I wonder how many of the professionals at Justice & other locations will release phone conversations of Barry’s when the shooting war starts???


26 posted on 10/29/2013 9:45:36 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: mojito

We don’t do that.
We did it, but I didn’t know about it.
If I had known about it, I would have stopped it.
Now I know about it, so I am considering stopping it.
Okay, I actually signed off on it.

Next up...

This is Republicans’ fault because of the shutdown, sequester, debt ceiling, and due to the dirty politics of the terrorist Tea party group. So we are issuing a press release to call for Merkel to stop all the mudslinging.


27 posted on 10/29/2013 9:55:06 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Fear and dread must be slowly descending over the offices of the LA times. They contradicted the One...


28 posted on 10/29/2013 9:56:44 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I hope not! It is a dark and NOT good night under that bus, driven by a Dark Knight who is taking those still on it to an even darker place.


29 posted on 10/29/2013 10:01:04 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: mojito

FUBARaq’s relationship with CIA is beginning to feel like JFK’s.....


30 posted on 10/29/2013 10:12:44 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: mojito

Random act of journalism on the “magic negro” by the LA Times.


31 posted on 10/29/2013 10:33:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Venturer
I'd prefer hangin’ ropes attached to every light pole stretching the length of US 95, running both north and south out of DC.....leaving the bodies to feed the crows ‘cause crows gotta eat too.
32 posted on 10/29/2013 11:33:29 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: mojito

DiChiFi is not happy about this.

Obama is about to lose some more backers.


33 posted on 10/29/2013 11:44:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Longbow1969
We are all probably victims of misinformation. Have you ever worked with a government computer program? I will give you a hint... at least at the level where I am at the experience that I typically experience is more along the lines of https://www.healthcare.gov than the all knowing OZ as described by Eric Snowden. I think it is fairly likely that the entire Snowden situation is likely to be an elaborate ruse to shutdown all forms of electronic and phone communications within terrorist organizations.

The positives are these and more: It has got people all over the world concerned about government interference into their private lives. The entire electronics communications network within terrorist organizations is being disrupted. They are now most likely relying far more on couriers which are easier to track and apprehend. It is making Obama look like the complete lying Bozo that he is. Obviously I could go on and on.

The negatives are what? Terrorists know not to use cell phones, emails, electronic bulletin boards, websites and other means of electronics communications? That is a positive. Did Eric Snowden out anyone who is now at risk? I haven't heard of anyone. Our intelligence communities “techniques” have been exposed. What have you learned that you didn't already suspect? Our allies in Europe are mad at us? What is new? Maybe next time they won't give a Nobel Peace Prize to an unproven liar who never accomplished anything.

I am just not buying any of it. I think that more likely than not the entire situation is an elaborate ruse to shut down terrorist communication networks. It seems more so every time they trickle out some extra tidbit. As soon as our enemies start peaking out we fire a few more shots over their heads. Maybe Julian Assange will even be allowed to go to South America after this thing calms back down. It is all just too perfect.

34 posted on 10/29/2013 11:55:23 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: mojito

I hate it when the White House gives permission yet the people inside have no idea. These tyrannical old buildings are difficult to deal with.


35 posted on 10/29/2013 11:58:01 AM PDT by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: mojito
Wow, 35 replies and I haven't seen the obvious:

It's Bush's fault


36 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:33 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: mojito

Not Obama, they kept it secret from him just like w Obmacare website.


37 posted on 10/29/2013 12:30:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

A modern day Sparticus. LOL.


38 posted on 10/29/2013 1:23:15 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
"Why are we tolerating a total pathological liar as President with no repercussions from Congress?"

Probably because the NSA has incriminating evidence against most members of the Senate and Congress.

39 posted on 10/29/2013 1:50:01 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: mojito

It is not just us
world leaders he has inflamed
barry screws us all


40 posted on 10/29/2013 2:59:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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41 posted on 10/29/2013 4:03:12 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: mojito

The LA Times, dumping on Obama! Now that’s news.


42 posted on 10/29/2013 7:59:52 PM PDT by Flint
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To: pepsionice

I wonder if Snowden is still getting information from some friends.


43 posted on 10/29/2013 8:50:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: mojito

I suppose that this will justify spying by allies on the US.

I will not say his name, but the initials JP come to mind. Make of it what you will.


44 posted on 10/29/2013 10:44:56 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: mojito

When he said he did not know, he did not mislead, he was just being nuanced.


45 posted on 10/29/2013 10:46:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: I want the USA back

“I would like to know if 0 has the NSA spy on the middle eastern countries that hate us. He loves them, and doesn’t want them mad at him.

He hates European countries, and doesn’t care if he gets them mad.”

He also hates americans. The 4th ammendment is dead. No doubt they’ll keep on spying every one on this planet. In other words: “The Terrorists have won”. They hated our liberty and freedom. We gave up all our liberties and freedom on this “war on terror”. That’s like committing suicide to prevent murder. The entire western (formerly known as the free) world turned into something like the USSR and it’s satellite states. Now i know what the misterious “change” meant. The outrage in europe makes me remeber the prague spring and the polish crisis. Welcome to the USSA.


46 posted on 10/30/2013 1:35:06 AM PDT by SgtBilko (Illegal immigration)
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To: SgtBilko

He hates America’s allies because he hates America.
He buddies up with America’s enemies because he is one of them.

And the media that got him elected twice is just now finding this out?
Well, Shazzayum!


47 posted on 10/30/2013 5:09:59 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: Longbow1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-Xr3sq7YE

Daily Show rips the “Know Nothing” President


48 posted on 10/30/2013 5:16:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mojito

Must be democrat genetics,remember Nazi Pelosi never knew about water boarding either she said. When in fact others said she asked if that was all they could do.


49 posted on 10/30/2013 8:09:21 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Why are we tolerating a total pathological liar as President with no repercussions from Congress?

Because he's black.

50 posted on 10/30/2013 1:56:26 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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