Posted on 10/16/2013 1:07:10 PM PDT by Hostage
CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOW AND TELL THEM TO REMOVE BOEHNER AS SPEAKER TODAY BEFORE THE EVENING VOTE!
LIGHT UP THE PHONE LINES!
Don’t confuse the 1 national election with the nation as a whole.... playing games with electoral votes is not the same as representing the people.
Conservatives need to better leverage the congress, this is where they will be able to affect change, but they cannot do so if the upper house has no will to fight for anything.
This was a fools errand from the get go, political theater, that was always going to end the way it did. What lesson that should be learned is that we need more conservative senators... Even if we had every republican in the house this would have been the end game as long as the senate was going to do what everyone knew it was going to do.
It’s the damn liberal media’s fault.. Plain and simple,, like there voter base and audience,, dumbed&doped down to the nth degree..
No. He fought with the cards he had. The only crack would have come if the polls hit the Dems harder than they would the Republicans, we all know/knew that would not happen. The media and Obama control the message.
They, the republicans, don’t need to have a vote per se. They need only poll themselves to see if 221 of their 232 caucus will send a message to Boehner that they have the votes to remove him.
He played the cards dealt him?
Then he should have folded 3 months ago and saved us all the melodrama.
You aren’t getting a speaker like that until you have an caucus that is in the majority... right now tea party size in the house is enough that it can’t be ignored, but not so much it can rule the day... and the fact its virtually non existant in the Senate means nothing is going to change in the near term.
Tea party must grow its ranks in both houses, but particularly in the Senate if it wants to truly effect change.
Could Boehner, on his own, request a vote of confidence to remain as speaker, prior to conducting any future business?
Gotta’ start somewhere, and Boehner has proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable as Speaker (at least to Repubs - Dems love him!). Removing Boehner would really scare a lot of RINOs and start the ball rolling to replace the traitors.
This whole thing was political theater, no real change had any chance of coming from it folks... Other than it may have woken up a lot of apolitical folks to just how out of touch DC is with the rest of the nation.
We’ll see if that happened next Nov.
True, but again, this is Congress - to do even that will take at least a day or longer. Remember that we are still talking about the federal gov’t here. Moreover, 221 out of 232 cannot be counted on. Remember, out of the Republicans who initially fought Obamacare, 12 caved within one day of the shutdown - and this was among Republicans that were actually involved in it.
> “The real failure here is with the electorate. They re-elected Obama and gave the Dems the Senate.”
Not so. The real cause is the GOP establishment who gave us Romney because he had money.
The nomination of Romney caused more than six million blue collar Perot type and Reagan democrats to stay home. They saw there was not a bit of difference between Obama and Romney and they were right. Had the GOP given a suitable candidate, Obama would not be president.
Seriously? I think Boehner is not the one to blame here, he clearly got dragged to this unvoluntarily, but once he was in it I think he did the best he could with a losing hand.
The real traitors here, were the Senate Republicans, Boehner knew they weren’t going to hold their ground from the get go, and if they weren’t going to he had no win.
No one was going to let the US truly default over political theater.
Well, if there is any way that a majority of the House could force a vote for speaker then there is a certain way to remove Boner.
1-Tea Party members let it be known they will not vote for Boner.
2-The Dems all vote for Pelosi and with the Tea Party guys refusing to vote for Boner she becomes Speaker.
3-Tea Party members announce they will now vote unanimously for a qualified conservative for Speaker.
4-A new vote for Speaker is forced and the GOPe members can either vote for the new conservative choice or suffer along with Pelosi at the helm.
This all depends on whether or not a majority can by hook or crook force a new election for Speaker.
Boehner and many of the GOP have offered numerous ways out of this mess, with the simple proviso that the budget be ever so gradually brought under control through decreased spending. All ideas proposed by the GOP were ignored, as was Paul Ryans’, ridiculed, as with Cruz, or dismissed as dumb or evil by today’s media cabal. All that partisan divisive rhetoric is lapped up by the 47%. It is their sustenance.
What I’m saying is I think Boehner has done the best he could do given the circumstances and this manner of president we are now dealing with. Im still glad Cruz spoke up and put a spotlight on what’s happening, but it was time to move on. It’s probably time for the Libertarian Party to grow and grow quickly. I may become a Libertarian although their history of pacifism worries me. We have a President with a cruel streak when dealing with the American People. We have not seen the worst he is capable of. Obama hopes for the chance to show us just how bad things can get, because he believes suffering will lead to overall compliance. This is not a normal president, but for now, we are stuck with him, and with his ‘familiar’ Valerie G...A witch calls the trained crow on her shoulder her ‘familiar’.
Same here. Boehner was definitely a mistake. He is no leader in any sense.
Out of 232 republican members there has to be better than Boehner.
FR has a lot of trolls and subversives. I know for a fact that Obama’s ground troops have been in and out of FR.
God Bless You!
Long overdue. The man is worthless.
Agree....but the gaggle of establishment Republicans in the House also deserve a great deal of blame. They couldn’t pull together with the conservatives at the end to send a bill to the Senate. By stalling it, they knew the Senate would come up with an agreement, and Boehner would break the Hastert rule at this late date to avoid “default”.
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